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"The USA is not an empire..." and God didn't make the little green apples.
Strike The Root ^ | 01/21/02 | Manuel Miles

Posted on 01/22/2002 1:51:05 AM PST by Arkle

In a recent article, I opined that antiwar activists need to educate ourselves and others on the history of empires. I suggested that we might be less given to shock and surprise at every predictable move of the US Empire if we read histories of Rome, for example.

History has saddled the US state with pretending to be the heir to the American Revolution, an insurrection that was, in part, an anti-imperial rebellion. This is awkward for the US government and its minions of the mass media, as the USA is obviously a rampaging empire. When faced with such a conspicuous contradiction, statism always falls back on The Big Lie. Thus, we are exposed to the hilarious spectacle of various apologists for the US Empire claiming (and, sometimes, even believing) that the government of the USA is an altruistic, humanitarian helper to the world’s downtrodden masses, and nothing at all like a nasty old empire.

The reason that this sounds almost exactly like stale Soviet propaganda is because the USSR had the same problem; it was supposedly the heir to an anti-imperial revolution, too. So, much of the systematic denial has a familiar sound to it, at least to those over forty years of age.

Contrary to the agitprop, the inescapable fact is that the USA has its soldiers stationed in dozens of other countries, and that it dictates foreign, domestic and economic policy to many of the nations of the world. So how do the Empire’s apologists “explain” that the USA cannot be an empire? Let’s examine some of the current (you know there will be new ones tomorrow) rationalisations:

1) “The USA is a republic.”

To the uneducated (and the Ms-educated products of government schools), an empire has to be led by a guy who calls himself “the emperor”. That sounds good to simpletons, but it is historically incorrect. The Roman Empire was built under the Roman Republic; it only expanded under Octavian and his successors. It should be noted that even the emperors pretended to be the servants of the SPQR (Senate and People of Rome), however. Denial of the obvious is not a recent political invention.

The (pre-Rubicon) Roman Republic, controlled and extorted various payments from all of Gaul, most of Iberia, the coast of North Africa, Greece and the Balkans, and parts of Asia Minor. None of those places are located in Italy, so if that isn’t an empire, then they don’t exist. Yet, this was done by a republic which held elections for consuls, had a Senate that met frequently, occasional popular assemblies, comitia, et cetera.

There is no historical law prohibiting a republic from possessing an empire. There is a trend toward autocratic takeovers of imperial republics, however, especially after they reach a certain stage of growth. Even now this process is under way in the USA -- the President, like the first Roman emperors, decides when and where to wage war, and his Senate rubber stamps and extorts the funding for his imperial adventures, just as the original came to do in the time of Caesar and Octavian.

2) “The USA doesn’t call any country a ‘colony’.”

The republican Romans didn’t call anything a colony except settlements of Roman citizens (usually disbanded Roman legionnaires) in the midst of other peoples. They called some of their client states “allies” and “friends of Rome”, and they called the (initially) relatively few places which they ruled directly “provinces”.

The USA has a myriad of controlling agencies, from Nato and the UN to the IMF and the World Bank, through which it exercises its imperial will. This is (at times) slightly more sophisticated than the old Roman patchwork of client states and allies, but not fundamentally different. [Indeed, the old Roman system was often more sophisticated than the American one.]

Michael Grant, in his History of Rome, points out that, “The client kings were tied to the service of Rome in order to defend its frontiers and... In return, they were supported by the Romans against internal subversive movements and allowed a free hand inside their own countries. Thus Rome was spared the trouble and expense of administering these territories; and the formula worked well.”

It still does.

3) “The USA doesn’t rule other countries directly by imperial governor.”

Neither did Rome, in many instances. The ideal is to rule through a puppet government; one which owes its existence to the imperial power, and knows it. Rome often had “treaties” with its subject nations which forbade them from going to war without Roman approval. This calls to mind the US Empire’s attack on Iraq in the “Gulf War”. The Iraqis actually invaded Kuwait after seeking and receiving the permission of the US government. The imperial envoy who granted this permission was later recalled and dismissed, as she apparently misunderstood the empire’s intentions in the region. Similar awkward little gaffes happened when Roman envoys made agreements which the Senate didn’t like or approve of.

Numidia, a North African “client state” of Rome, was divided by Roman decree between Jugurtha and another Numidian prince. These two were kings of their respective lands, yet when Jugurtha decided that he wanted the whole cake, and attacked his neighbour without Rome’s permission, the gloves (and the pretence) came off. Rome fought and finally captured and executed Jugurtha. In the aftermath of the Gulf War, many American politicians cried for Saddam Hussein’s head, much as the Roman mob demanded Jugurtha’s. This is a typical imperial reaction to an act of defiance by the leader of a client state.

In the Balkans, in our day, the US and its allies have encouraged and financed rebellions to break up the strong state of Yugoslavia. The Romans were involved in similar scheming as they made their way down Dalmatia into Macedonia and Greece.

The USA does, in fact, sometimes rule directly by imperial government, as in its “trust territories” in the Pacific. And some colonies, like Puerto Rico, which is a “commonwealth”, are allowed local self-rule while the Empire runs its foreign policy. This is identical to the Roman empire’s practice.

4) “The US military goes abroad to protect the ‘national interests’ of the USA not to conquer other nations.”

The Roman legions were often sent abroad to “protect the lives and property of Romans” who lived in other countries. By definition, having “national” interests in other nations is to be an empire. A nation has no right to have “interests” requiring military interventions beyond its own borders. Of course, empires never seem to see it that way. The Romans usually ended up staying where they had temporarily intruded to protect their imperial interests.

Clinton said, back in the last century, that the US would only be in the Balkans for a year. Then his successor, Bush the Second, said that he wanted to get US troops out of the Balkans and other countries. He really would like to, I am sure, but the locals keep on defying the empire by attempting to defend themselves from its barbarian allies. This requires the long-term occupation of half the nations of the earth in the “national interests” of the USA and its various puppets like the KLA.

5) “The USA is altruistic and goes about the world helping others.”

That this one is used to justify the same “interventions” as number 4 above, does not seem to bother the apologists of the US Empire. Neither does the fact that it is so obviously, laughably false.

Those who refuse this “help” need to be forced to see the superior ways of the supposed American democracy, of course, and this involves a bit of bombing now and again. Collateral damage is such a shame, but if they’d only surrender, the savages would all benefit from the Pax Americana.

Thomas Jefferson and the signers of the Declaration of Independence would never have surrendered to any empire, no matter how “helpful” and “altruistic” it claimed to be. They would have taken up arms against the present US Empire, and that is why it has to deny its own existence.

We who oppose the existence of this empire must continue to point out its nature; because its toadies will continue to say that there’s no such thing... and it don’t rain in Indianapolis in the summertime.


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1 posted on 01/22/2002 1:51:05 AM PST by Arkle
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To: Arkle
P U K E
2 posted on 01/22/2002 1:59:17 AM PST by Neets
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To: Arkle
If the US is an empire then I would like to be Emperor. Where do I sign up?
3 posted on 01/22/2002 2:00:35 AM PST by ipfreely
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To: Arkle
I don’t believe that America is setting out to build an Empire but is slowly being dragged further and further into a role that mimics that, as the worlds unofficial policeman.

Cheers Tony

4 posted on 01/22/2002 2:02:00 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: Arkle
You forgot to post the BARF ALERT !
5 posted on 01/22/2002 2:06:11 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Arkle
"We who oppose the existence of this empire must continue to point out its nature; because its toadies will continue to say that there’s no such thing... and it don’t rain in Indianapolis in the summertime.

Not until the last sentence does the author come out of his closet in the cowardly and kingly plural, and lacking nerve to tell us why he 'opposes' the existence of this empire, ends his little diatribe on a cute-sy note.

6 posted on 01/22/2002 2:11:36 AM PST by Bounceback
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To: Arkle
is anyone here familiar with the history of Rome?
while i dont agree with the gist of this article, there are some valid points
7 posted on 01/22/2002 2:16:15 AM PST by wafflehouse
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To: Arkle
Clinton said, back in the last century, that the US would only be in the Balkans for a year.

Wrong again!
8 posted on 01/22/2002 2:16:24 AM PST by jjbrouwer
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To: nopardons
Well if it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, what should you call it? The author defines an empire as a country which takes military action to defend its national interests outside its own borders. If you accept this definition, then how is the US not an empire?

I think the problem is that "empire" is usually only used in a pejorative sense. The Roman and British empires spread civilised values around the world, and, while they both had their darker moments, were generally Good Things for humanity. I don't see why the American empire should be any different.

9 posted on 01/22/2002 2:20:54 AM PST by Arkle
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To: Arkle
Manuel Miles, aka Kaptain Kanada, is a politically incorrect writer from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

Miles seems more anit-American than anything else -- perhaps a victim of Canadian inferiority complex. Plenty of real evil in the world, but Miles fixates on the U.S. Methinks he wanders in his wilderness formed with the collapse of socialism.

10 posted on 01/22/2002 2:27:00 AM PST by laredo44
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To: ipfreely
If the US is an empire then I would like to be Emperor. Where do I sign up?

Job's already been taken.

11 posted on 01/22/2002 2:35:54 AM PST by another1
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To: Arkle
"The author defines an empire as a country which takes military action to defend its national interests outside its own borders. If you accept this definition, then how is the US not an empire?"

Typical leftist cant---to re-write the definition of a word or phrase to mean what they want it to.

Real definition (Merriam Webster):
"empire-a major political unit of great extent, or a number of territories or peoples UNDER A SINGLE SOVEREIGN AUTHORITY."

By that definition, the US is NOT an empire.

12 posted on 01/22/2002 2:40:22 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Arkle
Thanks. I'll bookmark this for later and see how everyone struggles with the truth.
But shouldn't we be demanding tribute from our vassal states for providing protection from their barbarian neighbors?

Hail Caesar!

13 posted on 01/22/2002 2:43:00 AM PST by Archaeus
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To: Wonder Warthog
Here's Merriam-Webster's definition of imperialism:

Main Entry: im·pe·ri·al·ism
Pronunciation: im-'pir-E-&-"li-z&m
Function: noun
Date: 1845
1 : imperial government, authority, or system
2 : the policy, practice, or advocacy of extending the power and dominion of a nation especially by direct territorial acquisitions or by gaining indirect control over the political or economic life of other areas; broadly : the extension or imposition of power, authority, or influence

14 posted on 01/22/2002 2:51:56 AM PST by Arkle
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To: All
Not with standing the War on Terrorism, is there any American freeper who can really claim to understand where American foreign policy is going or what it is really about. The only time I have ever seen American foreign policy explained even on this board it is usually tied up with a conspiracy theory and this is from real die in the wool American patriots many who have served there country

Cheers Tony

15 posted on 01/22/2002 2:59:28 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: Archaeus
shouldn't we be demanding tribute from our vassal states for providing protection from their barbarian neighbors?

Of the $61 billion cost of the Gulf War, $54 billion was offset by contributions of other members in the Coalition. Two-thirds of the $54 billion was provided by the Gulf States ($36 billion) with the remaining one-third mostly provided by Japan and Germany ($16 billion).

Not that there's anything wrong with that, I hasten to add.

16 posted on 01/22/2002 3:05:45 AM PST by Arkle
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To: Arkle
Nothing destroys a thread more than the use of simple facts.

Cheers Tony

17 posted on 01/22/2002 3:35:26 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: Arkle
Do you think some of the one-liner freepers on this forum will actually be able to comprehend this, let alone see any similarity in it?
18 posted on 01/22/2002 3:50:06 AM PST by kosta50
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To: tonycavanagh
Anywhere where close to 90% of the population believes in angels anything is possible.
19 posted on 01/22/2002 3:52:48 AM PST by kosta50
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To: Arkle
Comparisons with Rome are incorrect. America more resembles Athenian empire: Delos (sp?) naval union.
This is inconvenient comparison though, because this one existed only about 60 years.
20 posted on 01/22/2002 4:04:13 AM PST by Alquiviades
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