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CALIFORNIA PRIMARY - MARCH 5
County of San Bernardino ^ | Current | Various candidates asking for votes

Posted on 01/19/2002 2:24:53 AM PST by Rubber Duckie

A big mailing came today-- absentee voter ballots for the March 5 California primary. My wife votes in the Republican primary, I in the Democrat primary (yeah, I'm one of those Reagan Democrats) and we would like advice on the races which are not high-profile.

We like Bill Simon for governor and despise Gray Davis. Which Democrat has the most chance of embarassing him and the least chance of being elected?

How about the low-profile races like Lt. Governor, Secretary of State, Controller, Treasurer and Insurance Commissioner-- ideas for the best Pubbie and worst Democrat in each race as well as the propositions.

Advice, discussion, etc. is appreciated. Not just for us but other California residents. We plan to vote against all the so-called vote modernization plans until the state does something about fraud-- especially diluting legitimate votes with manufactured motor voters, many of whom are not even eligible.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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Thanks for indulging a vanity ... but an important vanity.
1 posted on 01/19/2002 2:24:53 AM PST by Rubber Duckie
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To: Rubber Duckie
Reagan Democrat?

Well, thank you, sir, and please change parties.

Of course, in 1980, a sweet but not-too-bright blonde went to a friend of mine and confessed, I'm not registered Republican, and I can't vote for Reagan in the (Calif) primary, so what should I do? And my friend told her, it's all right, don't vote for Carter, vote for Kennedy.

Anyone but Gray Davis. Take your choice.

And again, how can someone who liked Ronnie remain a Democrat, considering what the Democrats are today?

Well, maybe they can be turned, but you've got a lot of work ahead of you. Good luck.

2 posted on 01/19/2002 2:59:26 AM PST by Chairman Fred
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To: Chairman Fred
Being a Democrat nowadays is like trying to preach the virtues of chastity in a whorehouse. OTOH, somebody has to do it.

See my bio to see how I ended up this way Hint: it has a lot to do with RINOs and their shabby treatment of Ronnie in the 1976 primaries. I'm still not sorry Carter won the general election, Ronnie might not have gotten a chance in 1980 had a few thousand votes in Wisconsin and Ohio shifted to Ford in 1976.

3 posted on 01/19/2002 3:23:29 AM PST by Rubber Duckie
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To: Rubber Duckie
I don't know about any of these races - but why are you going to vote by absentee ballot? Don't you know these are very subject to election fraud?
4 posted on 01/19/2002 5:36:07 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Rubber Duckie

California Governor 

Danney Ball (R) 
Edie Bukewihge (R) 
Jim Dimov (R) 
Nick Jesson (R) 
Bill Jones (R) 
Richard Riordan (RINO) 
Bill Simon (R) 
Reinhold Gulke (AI) 
Gary David Copeland (L) 
Mosemarie Boyd (D) 
Anselmo A. Chavez (D) 
Charles "Chuck" Pineda, Jr. (D) 
Peter Miguel Camejo (G) 
Iris Adam (NL)
Gray Davis (D-Inc) 

California Lieutenant Governor 
Bruce McPherson (R)
Ellie Michaels (R)
Jim King (AI) 
Donna J. Warren (G) 
Pat Wright (L) 
Kalee Przybylak (NL) 
Paul Jerry Hannosh (Reform) 
Cruz Bustamante (D-Inc.)

California Secretary of State 
Keith Ohlberg (R) 
Barbara Jean Marr (R) 
Mike Schaefer (R) 
Edward C. Noonan (AI) 
Gail K. Lightfoot (L) 
Valli Sharpe-Geisler (Reform) 
Louise Marie Allison (NL) 
Larry Shoup (G) 
Michela Alioto (D) 
March Fong Eu (D) 
Carl Henley (D) 
Shawn Casey O' Brien (D) 
Kevin Shelley (D) 

California Attorney General 
Dick Ackerman (R)
Diane Beall Templin (AI) 
Ed Kuwatch (L) 
Glen Freeman Mowrer (G) 
Mike Schmier (D) 
Bill Lockyer (D-Inc.)

California Controller 
Dean Andal (R) 
Nancy Beecham (R) 
W. Snow Hume (R) 
Tom McClintock (R) 
Ernest F. Vance (AI) 
J. Carlos Aguirre (NL) 
David Delano Blanco (G) 
Laura Wells (G) 
Johan Klehs (D) 
Steve Westly (D) 

California Treasurer 
Greg Conlon (R) 
Mary A. Toman (R) 
Nathan E. Johnson (AI) 
Marian Smithson (L) 
Sylvia Valentine (NL) 
Jeanne-Marie Rosenmeier (G) 
Phil Angelides (D-Inc.)

California Insurance Commissioner 
Wes Bannister (R) 
Gary Mendoza (R) 
Stefan "Watchdog" Stitch (R) 
Steve Klein (AI) 
Dale F. Ogden (L) 
Raul Calderon, Jr. (NL) 
David I. Sheidlower (G) 
Thomas M. Calderon (D) 
John Garamendi (D) 
Tom Umberg (D) 
Bill Winslow (D) 

California State Superintendent of Public Instruction  ("Non-partisan" race)
Delaine Eastin (D-Inc.)
Lynne Leach 
Jack O'Connell 
Katherine H. Smith 
Joe Taylor 

Of the Democrats, I have no recommendation other than against the Democrat incumbent. Republicans in contested primaries:
- anybody but Riordan for Governor
- no recommendation for Lt. Gov yet...McPherson will probably win as he has political experience.
- dunno about Sec of State
- I like McClintock for Controller, but don't know anything about the other candidates
- Treasurer, dunno
- Insurance commish, dunno, but "Watchdog" has the cool nickname.
- Public Ed., Lynne Leach all the waaaaaayyyyyy!
5 posted on 01/19/2002 9:13:26 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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Propositions that are on the
March 5, 2002 Primary Ballot

Bond Measure
Proposition 40 - AB 1602 (Chapter 875, 2001). Keeley.

California Clean Water, Clean Air, Safe Neighborhood Parks, and Coastal Protection Act of 2002.

Bond Measure
Proposition 41 - AB 56 (Chapter 902, 2001). Shelley.

Voting Modernization Act of 2002.

Legislative Constitutional Amendment
Proposition 42 - ACA 4. (Resolution Chapter 87, 2001). Dutra.

Transportation funding: Sales and use tax revenues.
An act to add Article XIX B, relating to transportation.

Legislative Constitutional Amendment
Proposition 43 - ACA 9. (Resolution Chapter 114, 2001). Longville.

Right to have vote counted.
An act to add section 2.5 to Article II, relating to suffrage.

Legislative Initiative Amendment
Proposition 44 - SB 1988. (Chapter 867, 2000). Speier.
(Sections 5 and 6 only.)

Insurance Fraud.
An act to amend, among other things, sections 1003 and 1004 of the Business and Professions Code, relating to the Chiropractic Initiative Act.

Initiative Constitutional Amendment
Proposition 45 - 918 (SA2001RF0012)

Legislative Term Limits. Local Voter Petitions.
Proponents: Howard Owens c/o Richard D. Martland, Neilson, Merksamer, Parinello, Mueller & Naylor, LLP (916) 446-6752

6 posted on 01/19/2002 9:23:09 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Rubber Duckie
Rubber Duckie said: "We like Bill Simon for governor and despise Gray Davis. Which Democrat has the most chance of embarassing him and the least chance of being elected?"

I think that you should be more concerned by the fact that I would vote for Simon but not for Riordan.

Many who desire a third party in the US do not realize that our "winner take all" executive branch just about ensures that we will always have a two party system. The way to raise the prospects of a "third" party, like the Libertarians, is to destroy one of the existing dominant parties. I recommend the destruction of the Democrats. And that includes candidates like Riordan who are indistinguishable from them. If someone can tell my what makes Riordan a Republican, I would like to hear it.

7 posted on 01/19/2002 6:26:13 PM PST by William Tell
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To: CounterCounterCulture
My knee-jerk reaction is to vote "no" on all of those propositions. Am I wrong?

(My freepname is outdated, I live in Tarzana)

8 posted on 01/19/2002 9:24:30 PM PST by Tony in Hawaii
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To: *CalGov2002
bump
9 posted on 01/19/2002 9:31:57 PM PST by Free the USA
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To: Tony in Hawaii
I won't know yet until I see the actual text, but I certainly tend to vote against any bond measure. As for the "Right to have vote counted," if it has to do with counting the absentee ballots, sure, but if it has anything to do with the Floriduh debacle, then hell no.
10 posted on 01/19/2002 9:39:30 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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