Need some Freeper advice Job offer(vanity post)

Myself | 1/18/2002 | Aric2000

[Bahbah]

I once seriously considered moving into Gepthardt's district to vote against him, so it's not all bad.

[Major Matt Mason]

Wow, I can remember when Southern Cal was considered nirvana. Now, people have to think twice before moving there. Sad times, indeed.

As for advice, I don't have much to give. If it is a great opportunity, it might not be wise to pass it up, since great opportunities don't necessarily come along very often. OTOH, if you're that concerned about CA's gun laws, to the point where it would ruin the positives of your new job, then you might want to keep looking.

Talk about sitting on the fence, I should be a moderate.

[Thinkin' Gal]

I fled So. Cal in 1988 and have never looked back. Remember Lot's wife. Hope that helps! :-|

[goldwater was right]

Having fled So Cal myself 5-ish or so years ago, I can readily have an answer, maybe.

If the bucks are big, grab it. But make sure they are VERY big. Cost of housing and living are astronomical in San Diego and Orange Counties. Typical SoCal home in that area is now around $270,000 and that's an AVERAGE home. Wages in most cases, haven't even attempted to keep pace with housing costs nor outrageous state taxes.

BUT, if the money is very very sweet, you will enjoy it as no other place and the RV industry is one of the most fun careers you can have, IMHO.

I'd say if they're offering $150,000+ and commissions or override, you'll dig it.

[lormand]

Consider moving to Texas if you can find a suitable job! You can pack heat here with a CH License, have it honored in most of the neighboring states, AND we have two Senators and a Governor that we are proud of.

[Aric2000]

Thank you all very much, again, I am really on the fence, it sounds like a GREAT oportunity and at the same time, Southern California is the socialist mecca of the US.

I am still dazed and confused, but that helped, thanks!!

[The Iceman Cometh]

It's been a while since I have been in the Long Beach area but thought it was a nice area. As far as politics goes, California is on the leading edge of liberal insanity and Oregon seems to follow close behind. If you are used to living in densely packed areas than I say go for it.

I, too, work in the technology industry in the northwest and would look very hard at getting out if the opportunity is right.

In fact, I am a leading sales rep at my company. Please take the job and then hire me to work under you.

Thanks!

[Old Professer]

I have three problems with this:

You are a sales manager and you want us to sell you on this idea;

You're job-shopping because of the recession and lowered demand for electronics and think an RV manufacturer is a strong choice for an upturn;

Whether you have a permit or not is likely the last reason to carry a firearm, and certainly California has a higher crime rate than your current location.

Other than that, I say, "Go for it."

[shagbark]

Take the job. Consider the additional expenses of private schooling for the kids ( if any ). Use this as an opportunity to be a missionary for conservatism behind enemy lines.

[JoeFromCA]

I've lived in the San Francisco Bay Area for 30 years, owned residential rental real estate in the City, etc. I just ignore the local and state politics. It's a given that CA will never go for a Republican. Even Gray Davis will probably be reelected. I write letters to Senators Feinstein and Boxer frequently, mostly for kicks to see what bull they will send back.

Many of the corporate/business people in California are conservative Republicans, believe it or not. So you can survive just fine. Cost of living is high but there's a lot of money to be made here.

Good luck.

[JoeFromCA]

Footnote: Re carrying, you'll never get a permit to carry in CA, so you just have to make a personal decision re carrying. Over the years when I've been in circumstances where I needed to carry, I've just discretely packed, and never had a problem. It is legal in CA to keep a loaded firearm (including handgun) in your home, office and campsite, not in your car or on concealed on your person.

[BansheeBill]

I had three friends move away from the Long Beach area in the last five years, and one large contributory factor was that the commute to work, that had been less than 30 minutes for them about a decade ago, often was closer to 2 hours, each way, with all the traffic congestion, accidents, and road construction projects.

[Leisler]

Today's NYTimes had a story of increasing production backlog of RV's at Winnabago( ? ) Can't build em fast enough. For what it is worth.

[yazd]

I am a conservative, I own guns, hold CWP in both Washington and Oregon, and carry at ALL times, which from what I understand is IMPOSSIBLE in Southern California.

You might want to run this requirement by your future employer. Maybe they can get a waiver for you. On the other hand, some employers, schools, post offices, airlines, and what not, take a dim view of folks who insist on bringing concealed weapons onto their private property.

[ken21]

used 2 live in long beach, until the l.a. riots, which also visited long beach. we had the national guard in our southeast strip mall.

most of long beach is now gang land. the only liveable area would be in the southeast corner, near cal state long beach or belmont shore. nearby are seal beach and huntington beach, still middle class.

get a house in huntington beach and have a short commute.

[SteveH]

Re the advice that if it is over 150K, go for it.

Some caveats:

California is not a state, it is a process. There is a recent decision to permit illegal immigrants into state and community colleges at in-state tuition rates, while holding non-Calif. US citizen students to the out of state tuition level. This is also being considered at the UC level. IOW, immigration forces are bad now and will only get worse, with more social blight on the near horizon as a result.

IMHO, don't move unless you can afford to keep or get out of state property. Oregon might be ideal. All the talk about being a force for change behind enemy lines is a lot of bluster. One needs a good bag-out strategy when the time comes and the excrement hits the air circulation device.

This goes doubly for Southern Calif.

[WillaJohns]

I live in Southern California, Huntington Beach to be exact. I love it here. The climate is paradise on earth. Yes, it is crowded, people drive crazy sometimes, but I drive slow, listen to books on tape when I'm not listening to talk radio (we've got AWESOME talk radio right now), and stay mellow. The neighborhood you pick to live in is VERY important and a really nice neighborhood can be just blocks from a really bad one. A decent house in my neighborhood will probably run you $425,000. My house is about 1300 sq ft and would probably sell in the low 300,000's. Rent for a decent 2-br house in my neighborhood runs about $1,900; apartment probably $1,600. Of course, the further inland you go the less expensive it gets (it also gets hotter).

Right now, you can ski in the morning and surf in the afternoon if you're so inclined.

Oregon is a beautiful state, you will miss the green......

[Draco]

I live in Southern California, Santa Monica to be precise, which is on the coast and west of downtown Los Angeles. You should pull a copy of the Los Angeles Times classifieds and look at housing costs. Good areas cost an arm and a leg. Property taxes are high. Prop. 13 only benefits you if you hold on to your home. A new basis is figured once a house is sold. I live in a neighborhood where new homes have annual tax bills well into five figures. (Maybe you can just live in an RV.) Long Beach itself has undergone something of a renaissance. (Hey, did I spell that right?) However, it is also known as a place with a higher than average concentration of homosexuals. (It doesn't bother everyone to see two guys walking down the street holding hands and "making a statement" -- but then it is something I don't particularly care for.) Traffic has worsened considerably from the early 1990s. If you have a commute to a distant neighborhood, expect to spend a lot of time in your car. (Or maybe you could just camp on the freeway in the RV. Do you get the NFL games on a dish in the RV. That may be worth it alone.) We have no NFL team. (Which is not such a bad thing.) Most of your friends and contacts will be liberal and many will be vegetarian. The liberals will think that you are at least an idiot and that they are smarter then your because all smart people are liberals. You will initially find yourself wanting to prove that you are not "a racist, bigoted, sexist homophobe" who drinks little kids' blood on the weekends. But that is just due to an initial reaction to liberalism. Oh, yeah, the newsmedia is even worse here. They think that only Hollywood celebrities do anything for charity. Hollywood celebrities are experts on everything, especially Tibet and nuclear disarmament. As Homer Simpson once said, "Celebrities, is there anything they don't know?" I'd stick to a good place in Oregon. Run for office there. California has its conservative counties, but those are not found in the cities. Conservatives in Hollywood have to hide their political leanings -- or face not getting jobs as the tolerant and open-minded liberals who hire people just got to draw the line somewhere. Good Luck I am a native Californian and have lived in Massachusetts, Arizona and Washington, DC, as well. It's a great state. We just have to retake it.