My question was: "how much land do you propose Israel offer to the Palestinians before Palestinian land is no longer considered to be 'occupied by force'?"
"PEACE thru RESPECT
RESPECT thru UNITY"
Great idea, but sounds impossible unless the following thinking changes...
Seif- "All the above are happening , and in the background there is Palestine, the essential issue which has been tearing at the hearts of all Arabs for half a century and which is occupied by force by the Israelis."
You, Joe- "Now if that cease-fire you are proposing were to become real, wouldn't it mean then that Palestine is still occupied by force, meaning that it is NOT really a cease-fire?"
Marcelo- "My post was clear, the peace you talked about or your hero talked about, is one sided peace because there is no mention about Israeli occupation which have been there since 67 or the fate of refugees who have been in camps for more than 50 years.....so what don't you understand??"
D- "salam every one.. I would like to hear the opinion of any palistians living in the occupied lands and what they want? peace/no peace.. In my naive opinion, they are the ones who will decide about their future, if they want to forgive many years of obuse and frustration.."
Jammer- "No Arab country is occupying Israeli lands. Israel is the occupier of Syrian, Lebanese and Palestinian lands."
Jammer again- "If those countries, or any other Arab country, were capable of threatening Israeli security then why couldn’t they liberate their illegally occupied lands in the first place?"
Seif ( Previous Topic of the Week - Protests condemning the U.S. retaliation and attacks on Afghanistan )- "No we want all non-Arab Jews = Zionists out of occupied Palestine, if they must die to achieve this then so be it this is a legitimate fight! Remember self-defense they have occupied our homeland (with the help of the West) so we have the right to try to get it back . "
Hattie- "As for 'Palestine' - in quotes because it is a name given to the country of Israel after the Romans destroyed that country, and was never an independent state until the land was given back to Israel in 1948 - being occupied by force: how much land do you propose Israel offer to the Palestinians before Palestinian land is no longer considered to be 'occupied by force'?
Many of the posters on this board seem to agree that only by destroying Israel can there be "peace". Destruction for Peace=oxymoron. Thank you all for answering my question, "how much land do you propose Israel offer to the Palestinians before Palestinian land is no longer considered to be 'occupied by force'?"
Selective history. Palestine, never a country, is now somehow not only a country, but an "occupied" one. Arab states have never invaded Israel in this new version of history, making the Six-Day War an apparent non-event. Obviously, these non-invasions did not occur with the objective that is shared by many of the posters on this board: the total distruction of Israel.
Most Israeli's want the Palestinians to have their own state, but not if it comes with the price tag of the re-distruction of Israel. I guess this means that the Palestinians will never have their own state. Thank you all for your wisdom and insight. I'm sure that war-weary Palestinians will thank you all for it as well.
As usual, you are all invited to flame away, like this pearl of wisdom that Marcelo glomed from his too-tight tinfoil hat: "For you a hero is somebody who is there to serve Israeli interest, for me it is just a puppet who opens his mouth only when Sharon or push pulls the string..."
For me, a hero is a leader who stands up for a principle, even if it means his/her life. A hero is also an everyday person who stands up for a principle even if it means his/her life, and/or otherwise becomes more than the sum of his/her parts. A hero does not blow up innocent people. I don't think Ariel Sharon is a hero, Marcelo, and if you were correct in your tinfoil hat assumption, I would think he is.
What do you say we follow the the principle of King Abdullah's proposal, rather than the politics of it?
If Mideast politics need to be changed in the process, so be it. Politics be damned. Peace is what counts.
Source ( feel free to browse from page one of the discussion)