Posted on 01/15/2002 6:25:27 AM PST by consrv_at_IsraelForum_dot_com
The body of an Israeli man has been found in a bullet-riddled car in the West Bank.
Palestinian security officials say the body was found in Beit Sahour.
Initial reports say the man, who also carried a foreign passport, had been kidnapped by gunmen.
Earlier, the two largest Palestinian militant factions said they will stick to a truce with Israel despite their accusations that Israel assassinated a West Bank militia leader.
Supporters of Raed Karmi took revenge just hours after his death killing an Israeli soldier and wounding an officer who had left their armoured personnel carrier to question two Palestinians at a checkpoint.
Israel did not confirm or deny involvement in the killing of Karmi, 27, leader of the Al Aqsa Brigades in the West Bank town of Tulkarem.
Karmi had boasted of killing two Tel Aviv restaurant owners and was accused by Israel of having killed a total of nine Israelis. He survived an Israeli missile attack on his car in September.
Karmi's funeral procession wound through the streets of Tulkarem, with mourners carrying his body, wrapped in a Palestinian flag.
Militiamen shot in the air, and one shouted "settlers, beware."
The latest violence undermined US truce efforts, and it is not clear whether Washington mediator Anthony Zinni will return to the region later this week as planned.
Story filed: 14:52 Tuesday 15th January 2002
That must also be the "Palestinian" goal for Israel, why else would they have last week killed a Christian and three Moslem Israeli soldiers?
Israel has been back and forth on the Palestinians. In my lifetime I have seen Arafat go from a terrorist to a statesman back to a terrorist again based on Israeli policy. I have seen the government of Israel sign agreements grantng a Palestinian homeland and then taking it back when the government of that homeland acts autonomous to Israel's wishes.
Israel is in a real pickle, I don't deny it. At some point the Palestinians will be in the majority within the state of Israel, and then they will have a very difficult time maintaining the illusion of democracy while pursuing ethnic purity. If they annex the occupied territories, Palestinians would make up a majority of the newly-formed country today.
My concern is, why should we support them? How are they different from the former South African government which denied basic rights to a majority of their citizens based on ethnicity? We don't believe in ethnic discrimination in this country, so why are we subsidizing it in the Middle East?
This is not to say I support the Palestinians, many of whom are no more than opportunistic, violent thugs -- even toward their own people. I think we should keep at arm's length from the situation, try to maintain a posture as an honest broker if we are called upon to mediate the situation, and let the chips fall where they may.
If, as I suspect must happen, the Israelis extract the Palestinians from the occupied territories, so be it. Of course, if they did that, how would Sharon be different from Milosevik? But that's a different question, I guess.
No, they said they are going to end that policy. And as a gesture of goodwill, the Palestinians only killed two people.
In this statement you recognize that Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are not Israeli citizens, which is true. It makes you next statement How are they different from the former South African government which denied basic rights to a majority of their citizens based on ethnicity? patently false.
Arab citizens have full rights in Israel. They are exempt from the draft, though they can enlist. And die defending their country just as Jewish citizens do.
Hey, at least offer us a $10 million check before you say that.
Is that a result of the anonymity of a made of handle, or are you the same in real life?
You mean that as an American you support Al Gore's definition of e pluribus unum? Al thinks it means "out of one, many".
As an American, I much prefer to support the idea of "unumism" because the meaning of e pluribus unum is "out of many, one." Actually I think it's more accurate to say "one from many", but I'm not that much of a Latin scholar.
Anti Israel propaganda will not help in the Mideast peace process.
Yeah, sure. But are they allowed on "chosen people" buses, allowed to eat at "chosen people" falafel stands, allowed to stay in "chosen people" hotels, see "chosen people" movies, go to the "chosen people" beach.......?
Everyone knows Israel is for the "chosen people", why don't you?
No doubt. But they do not deserve to die for it. We should recognize that freedom of speech is "inalienable." People are born with it. The true test of whether you agree with the foundations of American philosophy is whether you might join a military in order to defend these scum their right to cheer the events of September 11th.
You are mucking up the English language. "There are some Palestinians who MURDER innocents, just as there are some Israelis who kill innocents" is more accurate. It is very rare to hear of an Israeli who murders an innocent Palestinian, but virtually every Israeli death at the hands of Palestinians is a cold blooded murder. You are equating MURDER with KILLING which is either a weakness in discernment or a deliberate propeganda technique.
Neither will unwavering and unquestioning support of Israel, as history has clearly shown.
I'm with you. Lets test it out.
Go to any Israeli streetcorner and shout that "Sharon is a sc*mbag".
After you become the toast of the Israeli Left, go to Gaza and shout that "Arafat is a sc*mbag"
Leave address of next of kin.
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