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BATF: Coerced Consent in Pinedale, Wyoming (Direct Link to Article)
Pinedale Roundup; Pinedale, Wyoming ^ | January 10, 2002 | Jason Mundy & Rob Shaul,editor

Posted on 01/13/2002 8:58:10 AM PST by Old Badger

Pinedale Roundup

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ATF Search - Coerced Consent
Man agrees to search at gunpoint
by Jason Mundy

ATF Search

At approximately 9:30 on a quiet Sunday morning last month, Bargerville resident Craig Storer woke to someone pounding so hard on his front door that it was "literally shaking the trailer." Running in his pajamas to look out the window, Mr. Storer saw a Deputy Sheriff's truck and a metallic silver vehicle parked in his driveway. Unknown to Mr. Storer, outside a swarm of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) agents and Sublette County Sheriff's deputies had been positioned at various locations around his bright blue trailer. Law enforcement officers were also positioned on Highway 191, leading toward the frontage road where Mr. Storer's trailer is located.

ATF agents and Sheriff's deputies were there to search Mr. Storer's trailer for illegal firearms. According to Sheriff's Detective, Paul Raftery, the Sheriff's office had information that Mr. Storer possessed automatic weapons and explosives. Because the Sheriff's office has no jurisdiction to enforce laws pertaining to illegal firearms, the ATF was contacted. The ATF began its own investigation of Mr. Storer, said Mr. Raftery.

The ATF and the Sheriff's deputies arrived at Mr. Storer's trailer without a search warrant.

According to Mr. Raftery, the ATF had been working with the Assistant U.S. Attorney and was in the process of getting a warrant, but it was the decision of Resident Agent in Charge, Gilbert Salinas of the ATF office in Cheyenne, to go ahead with the planned raid, without one.

Jeans still in his hand, Mr. Storer opened the door of the trailer leading outside to a small front porch. What he saw was the muzzle of a pistol pointing directly at his head. His first thought was to back up.

"I thought I was being robbed," said Mr. Storer.

Officers began shouting orders for Mr. Storer to turn around. As he did, he caught sight of two other men outside a small window pointing pistols in his direction. According to Mr. Storer, none of the men who had guns pointed at him identified themselves as law enforcement officers.

One of the ATF agents ordered Mr. Storer to stand face against a nearby wall with his hands on his head, and then proceeded to search him.

"At the time I still didn't realize that this was ATF," he said.

The agent then asked who was in the house and Mr. Storer called out to his girlfriend, who was in the back bedroom.

"They told me they were there to search the house. I asked then if they had a warrant," said Mr. Storer. They did not. An ATF agent instead presented Mr. Storer with a consent form to sign allowing the ATF agents and the Sheriff's deputies to search his trailer.

Mr. Storer, still in his pajamas and his hands on his head, surrounded by armed officers, was given an option. He and his girlfriend, who was wearing a t-shirt and little else, could wait outside in the cold until the ATF could obtain a warrant on a Sunday morning, or he could just sign the consent.

Mr. Storer was furious that both law enforcement agencies arrived to search his trailer with no warrant, based on information provided to the ATF and deputies by informants. He said if they ATF was keeping surveillance on him and had received warnings about supposed illegal weapons, they should have gotten a warrant.

"This sort of think happened in Nazi Germany," said Mr. Storer.

" My girlfriend was freaking out. I'm thinking do I sign or don't I? I don't owe them anything. I haven't done anything wrong."

Mr. Storer, still at gunpoint, decided to sign the consent form.

Once they had consent, agents began asking Mr. Storer if he had any illegal weapons. They wanted to know what guns he had, how many guns he had, and where they were located. They asked him if he had or had made any silencers. For the next twenty minutes ATF agents and Sheriff's deputies searched the trailer. They rummaged through boxes, examined gun cases and rifled through shelves looking for illegal firearms and parts kits that could convert guns from semi-automatic to fully automatic.

What they found were a couple of shotguns, two semi-automatic assault rifles ( a replica of an AK-47 and an M-16) a 9mm Berreta pistol, a .50 caliber single-shot, long-range rifle and a few other standard field rifles. All the guns found were legal. However, the .50 caliber did raise some eyebrows with ATF agents, said Mr. Storer.

"I've shot rounds through a car hood from a mile away with this gun," said Mr. Storer, as he displayed the rifle. The length of the gun is about 3 feet long, painted camouflage and looks menacing. Mr. Storer said there is a movement by the US government to classify the gun as a destructive weapon, which could make it illegal to purchase, even as a parts kit.

But the ATF did not confiscate the gun, which they had the legal authority to do under new anti-terrorism laws passed after Sept. 11. Mr. Storer readily admitted that he had bought the gun as a parts kit from a dealer, who he thought, had been arrested earlier for having 32 unregistered machine guns.

As the search continued, one sheriff's deputy emerged from the back bedroom and walked into where Mr. Storer, his girlfriend and a few agents and deputies were sitting, carrying a small bottle containing a white powder.

"They actually asked me if it was Anthrax," said Mr. Storer. Instead of Anthrax, the powder was cretonne, a dietary supplement for weightlifters, said Mr. Storer. The bottle and powder were taken and have not been returned by Sheriff's Deputies," he said.

After the search was conducted, which did not turn up anything illegal, both agencies vacated the trailer, leaving Mr. Storer angered and dumbfounded at what just happened.

"One of the agents told me as he was leaving that it must of been one of my doper friends that turned me in. That really pissed me off."

Mr. Storer has no prior convictions in Wyoming and said that his record is completely clean, except for a DUI a couple of years ago. He emphasized how frightening it was that a government agency could barge in his home and intimidate him into signing a consent to search form simply on the claims of an informant.

"My home is my sovereignty. My entire soul, everything I have in this world was bared to Sublette County and the Federal Government, legally," he concluded.

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Copyright © 2001 The Pinedale Roundup
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The Pinedale Roundup, PO Box 100, Pinedale, WY 82941   Phone 307-367-2123
Publisher/Editor: Rob Shaul   editor@pinedaleroundup.com
From the pages of
The Pinedale Roundup
Volume 96, Number 15 - January 10, 2002
brought to you online by Pinedale Online


Opinion

by Rob Shaul, Editor

Jack-booted Thugs

Jack-booted Thugs?

Craig Storer's description of the Sheriff and ATF raid on his home last month is chilling. First, I find it incredible that law enforcement officers began the search without a search warrant.

Second, the Sheriff and ATF conducted a raid of this magnitude with obviously scant information and justification is frightful.

Finally, the fact that the Sheriff and the ATF seem to be pointing fingers at each other for this incident is shameless.

Concerning the search warrant, the officers say they were in the process of getting one, but were afraid Mr. Storer might flee, so they conducted the raid without one. I'm not sure I believe them. Perhaps the ATF couldn't find a judge who would grant a search warrant based on the scant information they had about Mr. Storer - so they decided to coerce a consent search instead. We're going to follow up with the U.S. Attorney to see if indeed a search warrant was in the process.

Based on Mr. Storer's description of the events, he has a good legal argument that his consent to the search was coerced. The Sheriff's Deputies and ATF agents may have seriously violated Mr. Storer's civil rights.

I'm disappointed in Sheriff Hank Ruland for this debacle. In his press release and subsequent interview, Sheriff Ruland indicated that because his deputies and the ATF agents found no illegal guns in Mr. Storer's house, it was no big deal. But it is a big deal. Before waking someone up early on a Sunday morning with a swarm of officers waving guns around, you'd think law enforcement would be very sure it was going to find something. This kind of heavy-handed law enforcement isn't supposed to happen in America.

Mr. Ruland also failed to mention in his press release or interview that the deputies and ATF agents didn't have a search warrant before they conducted the raid. This is a major omission.

The ATF won't talk to us. The Sheriff's department points fingers at the feds for making the final call on the decision to go with the raid.

Ultimately, the responsibility rests with Sheriff Ruland as the elected official for law enforcement in Sublette County. He owes Mr. Storer and his constituents an explanation.

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To: Squantos,lurker,t-shirt,pocat,joe brower
"In 1960 when I came out of prison as an ex-convict, I had more freedom under parole supervision than there's available to the average citizen in America right now."

~~~Merle Haggard

21 posted on 01/13/2002 3:51:06 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: drypowder
AG Ashcroft ought to be catching hell over this incident.

He should be but he won't.

Remember in July when the swat team surrounded Richard Robinson's house in Lubbock? They shot 369 rounds into and around the house. Even killed one of the officers. Robinson never fired a shot. He was wounded.

Remember when we all watched Beck be burned to death on TV, Aug. 31?

Then there is the Rainbow Farm guys that were killed.

They aren't going to do anything. Nothing has changed except for getting worse.

22 posted on 01/13/2002 5:32:29 PM PST by carenot
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To: Area51; John R. (Bob) Locke
Area51, Marvelous idea!!!

Bob, you're a vet, I believe. ALL vets and NON-VETS who believe in the CONSTITUTION go to Vets for Constitutional Restoration

David Wright

23 posted on 01/13/2002 8:09:16 PM PST by dcwusmc
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To: Old Badger
BTTT
24 posted on 01/13/2002 8:24:12 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: dcwusmc
Looks good! Organizational meeting tomorrow, so I'll check back Tuesday (bookmarked the page) to see what went on.

I honestly believe that this nation's veterans are a large part of the answer to what ails the country.

25 posted on 01/13/2002 8:25:53 PM PST by John R. (Bob) Locke
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To: John R. (Bob) Locke
You are also invited to sit in. Do a search for VCR or look here for directions on getting into the chat room we hold our meetings in.
26 posted on 01/13/2002 8:33:06 PM PST by dcwusmc
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To: bang_list, squantos, Travis McGee
Good advice regarding the alarm monitor systems and voice/video recorders, squantos. Like firearms themselves, the same rule applies here: "It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it".
27 posted on 01/14/2002 4:34:01 AM PST by Joe Brower
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To: John R. (Bob) Locke; Travis McGee; Squantos; Lurker; aaabest; noumenon; donut watch
I just saw this this AM. I am incensed over this travesty. It is sheer good fortune that this man was not killed. Had he resisted the unidentified individuals there might well have been dead on both sides but it is most probable that he and his girlfriend would both be deceased. Here we have a man whose only crime it seems is that he was sleeping on a Subday morning.

Now where specifically in any Federal Law does it give Federal agents the right to seize lawfully owned property without a warrant or evidence of a crime. I note that the anonymous informant seems to be the source for a whole lot a raids where nothing is found. The question regarding anthrax is insane. Anthrax spores are ubiquitos in this country due to the fact that they are probably present anywhere cloven hoofed animals have grazed. Unless a person has either a whole lot of equipment for safe storage and loading of anthrax spore dust and or at least enough biochemistry knowledge to have a master of Sciece degree in that discipline there is no way they can avoid contaminating themselves in the weaponization of anthrax process. No officer particpating in this raid should ever collect another dime of the public's money. They should be prosecuted for assault in the highest degree, breaking and entering, mcriminal threatening, conspiracy to deprive this man of his civil rights while acting under the color of law enforcement and many other charges.

On another thread someone mentioned that they had called the local Sheriff's office and did not get any contradictionof the story. That in itself is a confirmation of the facts as stated in the article.

It is likely to get very nasty in this nation very soon. Had this been happening to me I would most likely be dead but I would have taken some of these criminals with me.

Stay well - Stay safe - stay armed - Yorktown

28 posted on 01/14/2002 5:42:22 AM PST by harpseal
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To: Old Badger; boston_liberty; BillofRights; christine11; Black Jade; Native American Female Vet...
"..9:30...Sunday morning last month...Craig Storer woke to someone pounding
so hard on his front door that it was "literally shaking the trailer."
Running in his pajamas to look out the window,
Mr. Storer saw a Deputy Sheriff's truck
and a metallic silver vehicle parked in his driveway..."

"...Mr. Storer opened the door of the trailer leading outside to a small front porch.
What he saw was the muzzle of a pistol pointing directly at his head..."

"...Officers began shouting orders for Mr. Storer to turn around.
As he did, he caught sight of two other men
outside a small window pointing pistols in his direction..."

"...One of the ATF agents ordered Mr. Storer to stand face against a nearby wall
with his hands on his head, and then proceeded to search him..."

"...They told me they were there to search the house.
I asked then if they had a warrant," said Mr. Storer.
They did not.
An ATF agent instead presented Mr. Storer with a consent form
to sign allowing the ATF agents and the Sheriff's deputies to search his trailer..."


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They threaten with a pistol to the head,
put his face into the wall,
search him,
then tell him "we're here to search your house."

When asked if they have a warrant, they say,
"No, but it's okay, you just sign this form here."

After forcing him to sign,
they go through all his personal belongings,
but it's okay, you see,
because he did sign a consent form.

29 posted on 01/14/2002 6:01:21 AM PST by exodus
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To: harpseal
"Anonymous informant" would make a good cover story
for "because I don't like you."
30 posted on 01/14/2002 6:07:02 AM PST by exodus
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To: Howlin, nopardons; Darlin'
"But the ATF did not confiscate the gun,
which they had the legal authority to do
under the new anti-terrorism laws..."

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See why I worry?
This man is not a "foreigner."

Weapons that do not violate current law
are subject to seizure by the government,
even those owned by a law-abiding citizen.

31 posted on 01/14/2002 6:16:58 AM PST by exodus
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To: riley1992; tex-oma; Native American Female Vet
Land of the free, huh?
32 posted on 01/14/2002 6:52:33 AM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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To: harpseal
A big "Bump"
33 posted on 01/14/2002 7:11:56 AM PST by Old Badger
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To: exodus
But they did take his bottle of powder.
34 posted on 01/14/2002 7:28:22 AM PST by carenot
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To: carenot
They hope to make a profit on the "powder."
35 posted on 01/14/2002 7:57:12 AM PST by exodus
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To: harpseal,Joe Brower
If a FLEO had killed this guy with a negligent discharge to the head, what do you want to bet the scene would have been arranged to "prove" he was drawing a gun at the least?

Remember the gun shop owner "suicided" post morten by the BATFags in Bakersfield?

36 posted on 01/14/2002 8:01:03 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
If a FLEO had killed this guy with a negligent discharge to the head, what do you want to bet the scene would have been arranged to "prove" he was drawing a gun at the least?

You are of course correct and any witnesses who would say anything else would have been killed in the gunfire. But given a review of what went wrong on this raid I am certain these agents will be retrained so that the accidental discharge becomes more certain.

Stay well - Stay safe - stay armed - Yorktown

37 posted on 01/14/2002 8:11:39 AM PST by harpseal
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To: Old Badger
Gee, isn't it great that we have a President who doesn't let things like this happen to gun owners? Isn't it wonderful that the GOP came to our rescue? /sarcasm
38 posted on 01/14/2002 8:26:17 AM PST by alpowolf
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To: exodus
When asked if they have a warrant, they say, "No, but it's okay, you just sign this form here."

After forcing him to sign, they go through all his personal belongings, but it's okay, you see, because he did sign a consent form.

When I was in college, I had the great privilege of taking a course from a Hungarian gentleman who had been captured by the Russians at the end of WWII. He spent 5 years in a Siberian prison camp before being released. His cellmate, who DID sign a confession (after seeing his granddaugter being tortured) was never released. Zoltan's advice to his students was very simple: Never sign anything.

39 posted on 01/14/2002 8:27:58 AM PST by mpoulin
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To: harpseal
Yeah, they really screwed the pooch by gaining bad PR for the BATFags instead of just killing him and setting the house on fire.

Then they could have "found" grenades and "bomb making literature" among the ashes to seal it.

40 posted on 01/14/2002 8:28:34 AM PST by Travis McGee
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