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Again, I think the whole issue of Keyes/Kristol is as relevant as Bush's college drinking--COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT!

Heavy sigh, right back 'atcha.

I agree with you on this point, but what I thought was odd is that you made a clear (albeit indirect) reference to President Bush (the secret society is a pretty strong clue there, KFP), and then you turned around and said (in my imagination, batting your eyelashes), "Where did I mention Bush? Who said I was talking about Bush? Wha...???"

That is disingenuous, and I still don't know why you did it. Maybe I'm just dense - Keyes supporters have certainly suggested worse. You were talking about Bush, so there is no point in playing dumb when confronted. Then again (and this is for Howlin'), it's probably me.

Oh, no. It's us; the 95 percent of conservatives who didn't vote for Keyes apparently would have done so if only we had understood what the 5 percent of the conservatives who DID vote for him understands when he speaks. It's something biological, I think. We're incapable of understanding words right in front of our face.

For instance

While Keyes and Kristol were roomates in college, others were boozing, partying and members of "secret societies" doing who knows what kind of weird things.

with a reference to 1)boozing, 2) partying, 3) secret societies, 4) and who know what kind of weird things -- four scandals "leaked" during Bush's campaign -- doesn't REALLY mean George Bush, although 95 percent of us think it does! See, there is somebody ELSE out there who those four things apply to; as soon as I find out who it is, I'll let you know.

And further, when somebody says

Don't bait the harpies

it's okay because THEY don't really mean what WE think they mean.

It's one of those "Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes" things. Ya see?

I don't deny I was talking about Bush. But the point of the post was not an attack on Bush, it was to illustrate the irrelevance of the Keyes/Kristol college roomate issue. That's why I avoided calling out his name.

Remember, this Keyes/Kristol thing has been brought up repeatedly for a long time now and I resisted ever addressing it, even though I was thinking about how ill advised it is for the supporters of someone with "college age misbehavior" baggage to go there.

Finally, when the issue came up again the other day on a pretty heated thread I decided to make my point but I did intentionally leave out Bush's name hoping that everyone would take the hint and put an end to this issue once and for all.

I refrain from personal attacks and name calling. No matter how frustrated or upset I get with a Freeper, I try to address the issue rather than calling someone a bozo, an idiot, use profanity, etc. Now being human, I'm not perfect so I'm sure if you were to search through the thousands and thousands of posts I've made over the years you may come up with a couple of examples where I slipped. But to try to use this particular example to prove that I go around engaging in personal attacks is unfair, IMHO.