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ABC News ^ | 1/4/2 | ABCNews.com

Posted on 01/05/2002 1:56:21 AM PST by ImphClinton

N E W Y O R K, Jan. 4 — An American Airlines passenger says he believes an Arab-American Secret Service agent who was kicked off a Christmas Day flight was targeted because of his ethnicity.

"I feel he was most likely removed from the plane — obviously I wasn't privy to the paperwork or that he was a Secret Service [agent] or such — but I think he fit a profile," the passenger, Mark Pueschel, said today on ABCNEWS' Good Morning America.

Pueschel had been seated next to the agent as the American Airlines flight prepared to take off from Baltimore to Dallas. The agent, who was armed, was on his way to work at President Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas. He was removed from the flight after the captain questioned the validity of his credentials.

Pueschel contacted the Council of Arab-American Relations after seeing a press release on the incident.

Bush 'Madder Than Heck' If Discrimination Seen

Bush told reporters last week he would be "madder than heck" if a government inquiry into the incident found that one of his Secret Service protectors was the victim of discrimination.

The agent demanded an apology from the airline through his attorneys at a news conference Thursday. The agent, whose identity has not been released, did not attend because he was on a security detail and not available for comment in person, his attorneys said. They read a statement in which he said he did not have a vendetta against American Airlines.

"It has never been my desire to make this incident personal," the statement said. "This case is only about the facts. I love my job, and I want to thank my fellow agents for all their support. God bless America."

American Airlines officials have said the agent was removed at the pilot's request because of "inconsistencies" in the paperwork he filed that is required of all federal agents flying on commercial airlines. Religion and ethnicity, American Airlines said, had nothing to do with his removal.

The pilot also released a statement saying the agent was "confrontational" and "abusive."

Christy Lopez, an attorney for the agent, said the agent was a victim of discrimination: "We believe the captain is using that as an excuse for taking him off the plane, but it is quite clear he took him off the plane for other reasons."

The agent has not ruled out filing a lawsuit against American Airlines, Lopez said. He still seeks an amicable resolution of the incident, but he wants airline officials to review their practices so no one else is victimized, she said.

Airline Calls Accusation 'Frivolous'

In a statement, American Airlines called the agent's claims "frivolous" and supported the pilot's actions, saying they were based on concerns for the security and safety of the passengers and crew.

"American carries out its security obligations according to the guidelines provided by the federal government," the airline's statement said. "Those guidelines are applied equally among all passengers, and the company vigorously resents any suggestion of racial discrimination."


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To: ImphClinton
So much for your DUMB suggestion that this pilot should have phoned up the White House. How many times are you going to repeat such foolishness?

One ringy dingy...two ringy dingy .... LOL!!

121 posted on 01/05/2002 7:18:09 AM PST by dennisw
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To: ImphClinton
So much for your DUMB suggestion that this pilot should have phoned up the White House. How many times are you going to repeat such foolishness?

One ringy dingy...two ringy dingy .... LOL!!

122 posted on 01/05/2002 7:24:20 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Right_in_Virginia
I wondered then and wonder still: "What was the President thinking?" I still don't understand it.

He was thinking of his conversations with this agent. This Agent had been guarding the President for nearly two years. Remember GW was guarded while he ran for President as well. GW knew this agent well and this is why he said what he said.

Quote me where he has been wrong on substance on anything that mattered.

American Airlines and this Pilott are in heap big trouble.

123 posted on 01/05/2002 7:31:05 AM PST by ImphClinton
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To: ImphClinton
Actually, a phone number for the USSS is listed on the first page (with the rest of the emergency numbers) in every phone book I've ever seen. How hard could it have been to get a number?

But I have two other questions. One: Did the agent pull a Rep. Issa and get to airport late enough so that a check was difficult to do?

And two, if the agent was stopped by problems with his paperwork, his gun et al. at the gate, how the dickens did the agent get by the screeners?

124 posted on 01/05/2002 7:37:14 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: dennisw
How many times are you going to repeat such foolishness?

The foolishness was the Pilot not doing the one ringy two ringy dingy thing. He didn't even attempt to verify this man's authenticity. It is even more foolish to think he couldn't have contacted the White House had he wanted to.

Again the Pilot had an agenda not the Agent.

125 posted on 01/05/2002 7:54:01 AM PST by ImphClinton
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To: mewzilla
The pilot had 90 minutes to check out this Agent. I guess you have to get to the Airport real early to get a weapon on board in the best of times. In this case he was transfered to another flight because of mechanical problems. The Gate attendent scratch out the number and put the new one down. I still do not know who responsibility it is to fill out this form since the Gate Attendent changed the form. None of the accounts have said who was responsible to fill out the form.
126 posted on 01/05/2002 7:59:25 AM PST by ImphClinton
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To: ImphClinton
Makes this Pilot look bad. Why didn't he call the Whitehouse????

Try picking up the phone and calling the White House and asking about a Secret Service agent. Please post the answer you get and the amount of time it takes, starting with when you begin to look for the phone number.

127 posted on 01/05/2002 8:04:31 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: moneyrunner
Bravo, excceptional thoughts and well written. A tip of the fedora to you.
128 posted on 01/05/2002 8:29:09 AM PST by Brad C.
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Try picking up the phone and calling the White House and asking about a Secret Service agent. Please post the answer you get and the amount of time it takes, starting with when you begin to look for the phone number.

Lets see 1411 Hello please give me the number for the USSS and patch me through. Hello this is Captain ? at BWI and I am trying to verify a Secret Agent on my flight. Sir would you please give me your airline and gate number so I can have an appropriate agent call you back.

I agree they would not give this information over the phone unless they initialized the call. They also might well have had another Agent at the Airport they could have sent over to check out the situation.

129 posted on 01/05/2002 8:33:36 AM PST by ImphClinton
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To: ImphClinton
If this number is so easy to get through on and is published all over the country, why don't you just save our fingers a bit of "walking", and post it for us?

The pilot made a decision based on his instincts and the people who don't sit in his seat have turned it into a circus.

No real harm was done; the agent is an ass and the pilot is probably sorry he didn't call-in sick that day, but no amount of talking is going to undo it and the next time a pilot is suspicious of a passenger, he will see this script in his head, he may make the politically proper response rather than take the immediately cautious route.

I think this could have been handled in a way where everybody came out looking good, the feds saying, "Hey, the pilot's headsup on this," the pilot saying, "I'm going to take this agent out to dinner the next time he's in town," and the media staging a photo-op with the agent and the pilot shaking hands like old buddies.

130 posted on 01/05/2002 8:49:45 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: ImphClinton
Makes this Pilot look bad. Why didn't he call the Whitehouse????

Well, ABC is the source, and how would it look to them if they gave more credence to the airline that the minority?

131 posted on 01/05/2002 8:55:11 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: ImphClinton
The pilot also released a statement saying the agent was "confrontational" and "abusive."

Christy Lopez, an attorney for the agent, said the agent was a victim of discrimination: "We believe the captain is using that as an excuse for taking him off the plane, but it is quite clear he took him off the plane for other reasons."

So is she saying that he was abusive but that was not relevant?

132 posted on 01/05/2002 8:57:14 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: Old Professer
www.whitehouse.org
The White House Phone Numbers
SWITCHBOARD: 202-456-1414
FAX: 202-456-2461
133 posted on 01/05/2002 9:12:23 AM PST by ImphClinton
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To: Glenn
Bush was wrong, wrong, wrong to make political hay out of this. This should have been handled on the QT.

I'm with AA on this. This article is horribly biased. Why would they get a passenger who has no facts about the situtation except his opinion to bolster their story?

I've been trying to find an email contact for ABCnews.com - if anyone knows it, please post it.

134 posted on 01/05/2002 9:18:24 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: Old Professer
U.S. Secret Service
Office of Government Liaison & Public Affairs
950 H Street, N.W.
Suite 8400
Washington, DC 20001
202.406.5708

Got it off the net Couldn't find the phone book. I seldom use it anyway. Another poster said these number were on page one of every phone book he had ever seen.

135 posted on 01/05/2002 9:21:49 AM PST by ImphClinton
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To: onyx
You have to admit the SS agent must be pretty Americanized! First thing he did after the "incidnet" was to call a lawyer!
136 posted on 01/05/2002 9:24:58 AM PST by texson66
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To: Hacksaw
I'm with AA on this. This article is horribly biased. Why would they get a passenger who has no facts about the situtation except his opinion to bolster their story?

He watched five passengers leave the plane all Arabs. He is not Arab and knew none of the Arabs removed. Furthermore this Agent is not releasing everything to the public. He has nothing to hide. His supervisor has not come forward and will not except in court. His President has vouched for him however and that would be enough for me in and of it's self. I have never heard GW misstate anything. GW had this man guarding him for the last two years. I believe the President.

None of American Airlines story makes any sense to me.

137 posted on 01/05/2002 9:27:46 AM PST by ImphClinton
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To: dennisw
the pilot should have taken a few minutes to make call to the whitehouse or the app. agency
138 posted on 01/05/2002 9:29:24 AM PST by macheese
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To: ImphClinton
The pilot had the right to do whatever he saw fit and to profile in any way he wanted and that's that. Bush was absolutely WRONG to start legitimizing the the questioning of authority of pilots to command their aircraft as they see fit. This SS agent is obviously a self-absorbed jerk if he can't see the LEGITIMATE reason for the pilot being concerned about an Arab male with screwed up paperwork wanting to fly on his aircraft.

Bush is SO concerned with not hurting a Muslim's feelings that it's ridiculous. And as it's starting to show, the public is wholeheartedly buying into the notion that it's evil -- even now in this post-9/11 environment -- to try to protect the public through the use of common sense.

MM

139 posted on 01/05/2002 9:30:43 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: ImphClinton
Ok, Ok, calm down. Of course the agent wants to prevent another 9/11. Of course he's only suing so that he can contribute to the victims fund.

I urge you to seek professional help before you snap and kill us all

140 posted on 01/05/2002 9:38:53 AM PST by Twodees
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