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To: old-ager
Right, it's not what I said. And right, some might make incorrect conclusions. But nobody is going to honestly conclude that Christ's suffering and dying because of their own sins makes further sinning a good thing, are they? And Scripture itself explicitly says it's completely wrong to conclude that we should sin more just so grace can abound. But my point here is that the "meat" is never going to be primarily obedience, but rather, forgiveness. I'll say it again: if the "meat" is obedience, we are in trouble.

I see your point and I agree. What I was trying to relay in my definition of "meat" was that this is where we have a role (i.e. a decision, choice, responsibility) to obey the will of God. He through His grace has forgiven me of my sins but my salvation is dependant on my obeying his word. If this is not a true statement then I fail to see why the scriptures tell me what I must do to be saved.

64 posted on 12/30/2001 10:05:05 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: PFKEY
my salvation is dependant on my obeying his word

No, your salvation is dependent on Christ's having obeyed His word perfectly.

67 posted on 12/30/2001 10:15:55 PM PST by old-ager
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To: PFKEY, oldager
He through His grace has forgiven me of my sins but my salvation is dependant on my obeying his word. If this is not a true statement then I fail to see why the scriptures tell me what I must do to be saved.

Salvation and sanctification are two seperated things. Salvation is dependent on believeing that the ONLY thing that will save you is trusting Jesus Christ to save you. AFTER salvation you will obey the word of God by the power of the Holy Spirit to live a Christian life which is sanctification.

If you believe that your salvation is dependent on your obeying the word of God you have negated what Jesus did on the cross for you.

We obey the word of God because WE ARE saved, not TO GET saved.

Becky

128 posted on 01/01/2002 6:58:02 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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