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To: A CA Guy
That would be throwing human reason out of the window. Which illegal drugs can make a person do by the way!

And this raises a whole other issue which I haven't seen addressed by those who advocate legalization. Since our whole form of self-governance is based on rationality, the ability to offer consent, and clear-headedness, why would anyone advocate the "right" to abrogate self-governance unless they were haters of liberty or were just sorely ill-informed? That is why I associate Libertarianism with the Baathist Party of Iraq, which applauds the efforts of the L.P. Do people have a "right" to destroy their own ability to self-govern? If the inalienable right to life/liberty/pursuit of happiness can be self-abrogated (as someone here claimed) then they would have no problems whatsoever with the consensual burning of the Bill of Rights. And who but an enemy of the Constitution (or the ill-informed) would approve of that?

199 posted on 12/30/2001 5:02:31 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
It is a real simple right and wrong issue that people who want to use illegal drugs wish to wrap as a freedom issue to avoid legal consequenses.

I don't think the Libertarians are all drugies, but I do think they have a strong drug using wing.

202 posted on 12/30/2001 5:07:48 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: Cultural Jihad
More of your obtuse gibberish below:

If the inalienable right to life/liberty/pursuit of happiness can be self-abrogated (as someone here claimed) --- blab, blab. --

Sheer bull. You can't name the 'someone' or show us your argument against, cause the claim, as you stated it, doesn't exist.

214 posted on 12/30/2001 5:45:18 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Cultural Jihad
And this raises a whole other issue which I haven't seen addressed by those who advocate legalization. Since our whole form of self-governance is based on rationality, the ability to offer consent, and clear-headedness, why would anyone advocate the "right" to abrogate self-governance unless they were haters of liberty or were just sorely ill-informed?

Obviously you favor the re-introduction of Prohibition, then. Niquil can cause me to be woozy for some hours. I know I'm not clear headed when I haven't had enough sleep. How much are you willing to get into my life and run it? Some posts ago, I asked you for your definition of liberty. Thus far, you've declined to articulate one. Why?

236 posted on 12/30/2001 6:33:12 PM PST by laredo44
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To: Cultural Jihad
Since our whole form of self-governance is based on rationality, the ability to offer consent, and clear-headedness, why would anyone advocate the "right" to abrogate self-governance unless they were haters of liberty or were just sorely ill-informed?

Are you then prepared to ban alcohol, legal narcotics and psychedelic plants, mind-imprisoning cults and all other contributors to irrationality?
352 posted on 12/30/2001 9:32:46 PM PST by Hemlock
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