Ayn Rand And Her Legacy Of Idiotic Objectivists

Toogood Reports ^ | December 30, 2001 | Charles A. Morse

[Physicist]

Tell you what, sit down and calculate the probability that these random chemicals would come to "life" even over 5 Billion years. It is an extremely low number!

Damn low. But that's not the theory of evolution, of course.

[Eddeche]

Could be re-titled as:

Ayn Rand And Her Legacy Of Idiotic Objectionists.

[FITZ]

I would venture to guess that there are some of them who don't even know what the Constitution is, as least based on their blatent disregard for it.

It's because they don't think the Constitution was created but is evolving.

[cgbg]

see Objectivism degenerating into militant atheism, under his influence?

lol

Trust me on this--in the early days objectivism was militantly atheist. Peikoff is reading Rand correctly.

Lessee, from my antique beaten up copy of "For The New Intellectual by Ayn Rand, p. 11:

In philosophy, we are taught that man's mind is impotent, that reality is unknowable, that knowledge is an illusion, and reason a superstition.

p. 13:

Pre-capitalist societies had no place for the creative power of a man's mind...Such societies were ruled by faith and its practical expression: force.

An objectivist with religious faith is a walking contradiction, and we all know what Rand thought about contradictions (A is A...) ;-)

If you want to disagree with Rand, fine, but don't blame the messenger (Piekoff).

[Marauder]

Christians worship The Holy Trinity, not priests.

And if there is no afterlife, it's not going to matter one way or the other. But if there is an afterlife, suffice it to say there are no atheists in hell.

[Frank Grimes]

I believe I also read somewhere that Ayn Rand was the one author that everyone in the House and Senate have read something by. Perhaps everyone is an exageration, but I'd bet she comes in #2 after the writers of the constitution

c'mon. don't try to tell me that Maxine Waters can read.

[Gurn]

I don't worship any priest. I worship Almighty God, and His Son, who died for me, and for you.

If you weren't the smartest person in the world, I'd suggest you read some C.S. Lewis. He was a hard-core atheist himself once. Alas, you have it all figured out, though, so don't bother.

[dfrussell]

Miracles are illogical fantasies that religious people use to explain their beliefs where logic falls short.

Kindly indulge everyone by "scientifically proving" your assertations... :)

Furthermore, I don't reject creation because Ayn Rand does. I reject creation because it cannot be scientifically proven. Anyone who wants you to believe in creation usually tells you that you must have "Faith", and then asks you to donate 10% of your salary for "God".

If you reject creationism because it cannot be "scientifically proven," then you must also reject evolution because it hasn't been "proven" either.

Check your dictionary for the meaning of "theory".

I am quite willing to risk an eternity in hell, for intellectual freedom on earth. I think that hell and heavan are simply stories that men have created for two reasons: 1)They have unanswered questions such as "How did I get here? in their minds, make up an incredible story to explain it rather than accept that they may never know the answer. 2) They want to have power over others, so they claim that there is a great place in the afterlife (that can't be proven) and tell others that they must perform acts of self depravation to them to get their. We call these power hungry people priests and ministers.

LOL

By "intellectual freedom" I assume you mean that you hold to a dogma which rejects organized religion...?

One can only wonder if you will ever appreciate how small, frightened and absurd your statements were :*)

P.S. Depraved and deprived mean very different things. I'll assume it to be a Freudian slip on your part :)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

[Dr. Good Will Hunting]

Barbara Boxer only reads, "The Book Of Shadows".

[Sir Gawain]

ping

[Dr. Good Will Hunting]

...the most nonsensical book I have ever read

Like you could write a better one.

[Sir Gawain]

ping

[balrog666]

It is the fool who says, "There is no God."

As contrasted with the fool who says, "Only my God is real. All others are false. And, oh yeah, here's what He wants you to do for me."

[texson66]

No, but for evolution to occur life has to start somewhere at sometime for life to "evolve". Nice touch that you did indicate evolution is a "theory". Thanks! Now if more people realized that it is only a theory instead of teaching it as fact. Evolution theory will never be a fact because it is not reducible to a repeatable experiment.

[Physicist]

Evolution theory will never be a fact because it is not reducible to a repeatable experiment.

By that standard, no historical event can ever be a fact.

That said, we do observe evolution going on all around us.

[Paleo Conservative]

By that standard, no historical event can ever be a fact.

There are numerous examples of evolution that have been documented especially among bacteria, viruses, and insects. The phenomenon of antibiotic resistance is a documented case of evolution. Resistance to antiviral drugs by the AIDS virus is another, and resistance to pesticides by mosquitos and other insects also confirm the theory. Given the vast amount of time the Earth has existed (4.6 billion years) there is more than ample time to explain the diversity of life that is observed.

[Physicist]

Paleo: It appears your reply was intended for texson66 rather than me, so here's a ping for him.

[the_doc]

I had never heard the saying about the blind squirrel. I have always heard folks talking about the blind pig who roots around and finds an acorn. (Notice that this is much more pejorative.)

[texson66]

Is it really evolution or adaptation? Again, evolution will always be a theory beccause it is not a repeatable experiment. Newton's law of gravity is easily repeatable; Darwin's theory is not.