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Mark Steyn: War between America and Europe
The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 12/27/2001 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 12/27/2001 8:10:03 AM PST by Pokey78

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To: ambrose
I love football, yes. When were you last in the Netherlands? Those 'anti-semitic' slogans have nothing to do with Jews; they are aimed against Ajax, which is an Amsterdam club. The slogans are not taken seriously at all, not even by Jews. They are taken for what they are: cynical, black, football-humour. But that would be impossible for your nut-brain to comprehend.
181 posted on 12/29/2001 12:13:28 AM PST by NewAmsterdam
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To: NewAmsterdam
So, the Dutch consider anti-semitism funny, just like they consider euthanasia and child porn funny? What a sick sick sick society.
182 posted on 12/29/2001 12:13:30 AM PST by ambrose
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To: NewAmsterdam
I have been to Holland. I loved the Amsterdam train station... had a huge graffiti painted sign which read "HOTEL SLEEP IN FREE". I had to practically walk over the bums to get through that station.
183 posted on 12/29/2001 12:13:30 AM PST by ambrose
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To: Prodigal Daughter
Here somthing on the government funding of mosques in Holland:

Also while our churces have to sell use of their churces to attach mobile phone antennas to stay open, mosques get subsidized. In Rotterdam a condemned building was bought by the local government, for 1.82 million dollar (a lot more than it's value). Then they subsidised the mosque (called Mevlana) for 2.43 million dollar while the people only had to raise 1.82 million dollar themselves.

I got this from the operator from www.democrates.net (a Dutch site against multiculturism).

184 posted on 12/29/2001 12:16:15 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: ambrose
Such a depressing depiction of the truth....sigh.

Thanks for the ping nonetheless. It is always instructive to have to read such an astute synopsis of prevailing cultural viewpoints.

185 posted on 12/29/2001 12:16:36 AM PST by beowolf
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci;GROUCHOTWO; Lock & Load; Elihu Burritt; CommiesOut; madrussian; Askel5...
ping for Post#78 - interesting.
186 posted on 12/29/2001 12:19:14 AM PST by malarski
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To: ambrose
So, the Dutch consider anti-semitism funny, just like they consider euthanasia and child porn funny? What a sick sick sick society.

How do you reconcile that with the fact that Amsterdam has been a safe haven for Jews for hundreds of years?

187 posted on 12/29/2001 12:19:16 AM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Pokey78
Can you add me too, please? Thanks muchly. I love Steyn's articles.
188 posted on 12/29/2001 12:19:16 AM PST by flaglady47
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To: Carry_Okie
How do you reconcile that with the fact that Amsterdam has been a safe haven for Jews for hundreds of years?

Wasn't very safe for Ann Frank.

189 posted on 12/29/2001 12:19:16 AM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose
Though I don't doubt that were NAZI collaborators in Holland, I am not sure that one sticks in general. If however you can establish that somehow the Dutch, who had protected Jews from the French and Spanish for centuries, suddenly become anti-Semitic, what do you think changed and why?
190 posted on 12/29/2001 12:19:17 AM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
Well, I was just jerking NewAmsterdam's chain...
191 posted on 12/29/2001 12:19:18 AM PST by ambrose
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To: Pokey78
Maybe if they had to go out to work, they’d join the Daily Mirror and become the next John Pilger.

Beer just flew out of my nose...

I love this post, bttt...

192 posted on 12/29/2001 12:19:18 AM PST by Geronimo
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To: Carry_Okie
It isn't genetic it is cultural. That is why the people you spoke of are here in America being successful. Those who adopt our culture generally succeed. It is the Arab culture that is backward and nonproductive. Culture is the slave master that impoverishes so many around the world not genetics. To denounce and expose these cultures for what they are is not racist.

The truly sad thing is that people come to America to escape the corruption and destitution of their native countries, which is the result of their very culture, only to attempt to recreate that culture here…

193 posted on 12/29/2001 12:19:26 AM PST by DB
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To: madrussian
"Americans should remember their heritage and culture, which are essentially European Christian."

We broke away from Europe (England) for a reason. Unfortunately, for thee most part European and Christian don't go together.
194 posted on 12/29/2001 4:49:20 AM PST by Michael2001
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To: Michael2001
Not for the reason of being non-European or non-Christian.
195 posted on 12/29/2001 8:10:05 AM PST by madrussian
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To: flaglady47
You have been added to the MSPL.
197 posted on 12/31/2001 7:49:07 AM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Ya mon, please Steyn Bump me!
198 posted on 01/02/2002 4:56:32 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Pokey78
BTTT
199 posted on 01/05/2002 6:52:42 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: Pokey78
Bump for a great column.
200 posted on 01/05/2002 1:07:26 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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