The Myth Of The Palestinian People

Israel National News ^ | 26 December 2001 | Yehezkel Bin-Nun

[RLK]

The Philistines were not Canaanite. They came from Greece. They were European invaders.

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The Jews were not Canaanites, they were intruders from what is now Iraq coming after the Philistines.

[RLK]

Look to the year 1870 when the Zionists started coming in numbers. Palestine was desolate and under populated. The part of Palestine that these Jews settled is pretty much the Israel of today. Maybe 200,000 Muslims lived there.

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That's a lot greater number than the number of Jews who immigrated there. When Herzl made the call for Jewish return to Zion, the initial migration was very small. Jewish immigration did not become large until just before the second world war. In 1937 the Jewish population swelled to 500,000 as a result of attempt to escape Hitler. At that time there were about 1,200,000 Arabs living there who wanted further Jewish immigration sharply restricted.

[backhoe]

Well, FWIW I will add this link to my small file of "inconvienient facts about Israel" that I keep for educating the boobs who show up here from time to time, and I thank you for posting it.

[Bellflower]

bump!

[American in Israel]

At that time there were about 1,200,000 Arabs living there who wanted further Jewish immigration sharply restricted.

Funny if there were 1.2 mil arabs there in 1937 and there are only 1.5 mil here now in 2001, then most did not have kids for two generations, or you are a liar. Wonder which is true?

[RLK]

I got my figures from the almanacs. Take them or leave them.

[Non-Sequitur]

Regardless of what Mr. Bin-Nun chooses to call them, there are about 3 million of them and they are all over the occupied territories. Would Mr. Bin-Nun suggest granting them citizenship and calling them Israelis?

[dennisw]

Don't Confuse Me with the Facts
By Yadin Roman
     One of the most popular conceptions, repeated in the media, is the statement that the Palestinians, by agreeing to accept only Judea, Samaria and Gaza for their state, have ceded 80% of their lands to the Israelis. The historical facts are completely different – but that doesn’t seem to bother anyone.
     The first modern geopolitical entity in this area was the British Mandate for Palestine. The Mandate was created by the League of Nations in 1920, following the defeat of Turkey and the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in World War I. The Mandate was granted to Britain for the purpose of “establishing in Palestine a national home for the Jewish people.”
     The area of the Mandate was 118,000 square kilometers or 45,000 square miles.
     In 1921, Britain separated 91,000 square kilometers of the Mandate from Palestine and created Jordan. The British did not allow Jews to live in Jordan.
     In 1923, Britain ceded the Golan Heights (1,176 square kilometers) to the French Mandate of Syria. Jews were also barred from living in these areas. Jewish settlers on the Golan abandoned their homes and relocated inside the reduced area of the British Mandate.
     The total remaining area of the Mandate of Palestine, after these land deductions was 27,000 square kilometers (a little over 10,000 square miles). The southern part of the Mandate – the desert of the Negev – was closed by the British to Jewish settlement. The area was inhabited by 15,000 roaming Bedouins, and had no Jewish or Arab settlements in it.
     The rest of the Mandate, the inhabited part of Palestine was 14,000 square kilometers. On the eve of the creation of the State of Israel 1.8 million people lived this area: 600,000 Jews and 1.2 million Arabs. Following the war between the Jews and the Arabs in 1948, the inhabited areas of Mandatory Palestine were divided between Israel and Jordan. 8,000 square kilometers, or 57% of the area, became Israel. The rest, 5,700 square kilometers, was annexed by Jordan – and renamed the West Bank, and 360 square kilometers were occupied by Egypt and called the Gaza Strip.
     The 1948 war created a massive population shift among Jews and Arabs. Approximately 500,000 Arabs fled from the areas of the British Mandate that became Israel. Most of them to the Jordanian held areas of the Mandate and the Gaza Strip – a part of the Mandate conquered by the Egyptians. The majority of the rest fled to Lebanon. These refugees and their children have been forced, by their Arab brethren to remain in refugee camps for 52 years. In 1993, the UN claimed that there were 2.5 million Palestinian refugees. Today this number has been raised to 3.6 million refugees. Nearly a 50% increase over 7 years!
     Following the war in 1948, the Arab countries expelled 870,000 Jews. The majority of these refugees, together with hundreds of thousands of European Jews uprooted from their homes during World War II, were absorbed by Israel. In the first years of its existence, Israel accepted over 1,500,000 Jewish refugees.
     Today approximately 9 million people live on the 14,000 square kilometers of inhabited Palestine. Six million in Israel, three million in the Palestinian territories. The three million people in the Palestinian territories, all of them Arabs, who constitute just 33% of the combined Jewish and Palestinian populations, have been offered a chance to create their homeland on 43% of the land. The Israelis, who are 66% of the combined population, including over one million Arab Israelis, inhabit only 57% of what was once the inhabited areas of Mandatory Palestine.
     These are the facts. The statement that “the Palestinians are giving up 80% of their land” is a myth.

[dennisw]

The year 1941 was the turning point, when the persecution of Jews was transformed into the sinister annihilation plan, but it also marked a turning point in Jewish bravery in the war against Nazi Germany. Close to 1,500,000 million Jewish soldiers enlisted in the Allied Forces and the Soviet Army during World War II, on all fronts.

The number of Jews in the military forces was disproportionate in relation to the general Jewish population, and consequently, also the number of Jewish fallen and wounded soldiers. Approximately 230,000 Jewish soldiers fell during World War II. The 500,000 Jews living in Israel at the time sent 27,000 Jewish soldiers (including 3,150 women) to enlist in the British Army to fight Nazi Germany.

[Inyokern]

The Jews were not Canaanites, they were intruders from what is now Iraq coming after the Philistines.

The Arabs came long after the Jews. I find it interesting that they choose to call themselves by a name that celebrates a European invasion.

[anapikoros2]

Bump

[Alouette]

According to the Masoretic text:

...I will provoke them with a vile nation

According to the Hebrew text:

...Ve'ani akni'em b'lo am...

literal translation: I will provoke them with a non-nation

[veronica]

Ping.

[Pharmboy]

There have been Jews and non-Jews living in "Palestine" for thousands of years; no doubt. I do not think this is where the justification for Zion lies. For me, it is the unique, singular genocidal assault on the Jews by the Nazis (unique in its scope, not occurence) for which they deserved their own country purely--at least--for defensive purposes. Immediately after WWII, the world (other than the Arabs) agreed.

Also, remember this: the Torah relates how the invading Hebrews often killed the males and took the women for slaves and brides in the land of Canaan (Amalekites, Hittites, Edomites, etc.). The genes have mixed up a bit.

[BenF]

Immediately after WWII, the world (other than the Arabs) agreed.

Well, it wasn't quite that simple. Don't forget, Britian did everything they could to ensure that the Jewish State would be "still-born" - exterminated by the Arabs whom they allowed to arm while restricting arms to the Jews. They hoped that they could persuade the UN to intervene so that Britian could go in and "save" whatever Jews were left after the Arabs massacred them. Of course, any dream of a Jewish State would have been dead after that and the Jews would have to be content to rely on others for their very existance. It appears that to this day the Brits are sorry it didn't work out that way.

[BenF]

"The Myth of the Benevolent Zionist"

It's no myth. I doubt that anything will persuade you otherwise. However, for any lurkers that might be inclined to believe your statement, I would point out that under the Israelis, the Arabs enjoy a better standard of living, a longer life expectancy, a lower infant mortality rate, and an expectation that they will be treated like human beings. That doesn't exist in most of the Arab countries you would care to name including many of our so-called "allies".

[BenF]

Your post is inverted. This statement should come first:

Most Palestinians are stronger ties to the real Jews of Palestinians than do most Israeli's.

This makes so much sense that your first sentence:

No one here needs to read this silly goof.

applies to it and to you. Congratulations. Once again you have exposed your "brilliance" to all of FR.