GEORGIA ** Debate over licenses for illegal immigrants heats up ** GEORGIA

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | Dec. 24, 2001 | MARK BIXLER

[citizen]

Here we go again, this time it's MY state, Georgia. Atlanta and the whole northern part of the state is overrun with Illegals.

And now they want illegal Terrorist friendly IDs too!

[Clemenza]

South Carolina's attorney general

Ah, the GOOD Carolina. Home of John Calhoun and politically superior to Nawth Carolina.

However, let's keep in mind that the Mexicans were invited in by your neighbors in the mills of Gainesville and the poultry plants of Chamblee. Don't count on Barnes or the Dems who control the Senate and legislature to be on our side here.

[meyer]

Bump for later.

[4Freedom]

Militarize the borders and put these illegals on the other side. Let them get driver's licenses in their own countries.

[Iscool]

I didn't realize why our gov't not only allows, but welcomes and encourages illegal aliens...I thought that one couldn't get a job without a social security number...But all you really need, is a tax number...As long as the gov't gets it's taxes, c'mon in...

Now I see why this country is worried about running out of Social Security benefits in the future...

We ought to get off this "illegal alien" spiel...Why not just give them a citizenship card when they cross the border...Or better yet, send them in the mail and they can avoid the hassle at the border...What a sham on the "real" American people...

[citizen]

Yep, N. GA is fertile ground for illegal workers.....I'm quite willing to pay more to support American workers in those poultry and carpet jobs.

I'm not counting on our Republican friends either, so we need to beat on them with emails and letters......

[citizen]

You, me, Bill O'Reilly and many agree -- let the military/National Guard support the BP, at least till it's sealed and the Border Partrol is greatly expanded.

[Clemenza]

Problem is not so much cost of federal government, as much as the cost in terms of local property taxes. Thanks to the fact that the illegals typically bring their families, their kids fill up the schools, leading to increases in property taxes.

What we really should do is END FAMILY REUNIFICATION. This is merely another form of social engineering and must be stopped. Allow guest workers to come in to fill labor needs, but DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO AUTOMATICALLY BRING THEIR FAMILIES!!!

[citizen]

...As long as the gov't gets it's taxes, c'mon in...

Shocking isn't it....the Gub'ment gets taxes [not much] and the sleazy employers get cheap labor....You & I? We just lose our country and freedom every day.

[Clemenza]

I remember reading an article in the Wall Street Journal two years ago regarding the owner of a carpet factory in Georgia. He stated that the economic boom of the 90s had caused native-born workers to leave their jobs, with immigrants replacing them. In the case of this factory owner, he decided to simply move the plant down to Mexico to be closer to the source of the cheaper labor.

[citizen]

Excellent points!

Here in Dekalb County we [not me] voted for a one cent sales tax increase to permanently end the property portion of our county property tax (still paying school portion).

Only 4 years later now they say, SO sadly, that regretfully the property tax must be reinstated - and at drastically increased property valuations.

Dekalb schools are now choked and overcrowded with the illegals' children. Same for Gwinnett County.

[citizen]

BTW, you can click the hot link at the top of the thread to vote YES/NO on giving illegalls driving licenses in Georgia.

Go vote, please. (only once :)

[citizen]

FYI

[Clemenza]

Sheesh. I may be moving to that area if I attend Emory in August.

We have an interesting development here in South Florida, as we get both the rich Latin Americans fleeing Venezuela and Colombia (thereby propping up the local real estate market), along with the poorer classes who attend our substandard schools. As a result, we have rich foreigners (who send their kids to private schools) sharing the burden of the highest property taxes in the state along with the native born. Nevertheless, a bigger problem (particularly in Broward County to the north) are the old folks from New York who never saw a bond issue they didn't want to vote for.

[citizen]

FYI

I gotta go for a while, will check back later.....Merry Christmas to all Americans and LEGAL immigrants!

[FITZ]

Thanks to the fact that the illegals typically bring their families, their kids fill up the schools, leading to increases in property taxes.

That's what is happening here on the border, many don't even bother moving to the US, they bring their kids every morning to US schools and pick them up in the evening, that way they have no property taxes to pay for schools and Americans pay everything. Of course the local tax payer is maxed out so we have to have a "robin hood" policy where the rest of Texas helps to pay and of course we have massive amounts of federal money pouring into the region. Over half the children here are born into poverty, the county hospital is bankrupt inspite of extremely high taxes on the property owners, but we get federal money for that too.

[sarcasm]

Interesting in light of this:

Georgia leads in job losses

[FITZ]

Now I see why this country is worried about running out of Social Security benefits in the future...

I don't know why anyone thought that illegals would come here and abandon their own elderly. Most bring them in as soon as they can so they can have a better retirement because they don't have SSI and Medicare and Medicaid to rely on back home. SSI works very well if you never worked a day in your life in the US but are now too old to work here.

[citizen]

many don't even bother moving to the US, they bring their kids every morning to US schools and pick them up in the evening, that way they have no property taxes to pay

Arrrggh! Is that really true?! How can the BP be so lax as to allow such a predictable daily crossing? Twice a day in fact?

Are the PB agents bribed, lazy, sympathetic or what? If it's that bad along the border we are doomed without firm presidential action. Sadly, I don't see Pres. Bush wanting to protect us. The 'rule of law' doesn't seem to matter to Republicans WRT illegal immigration.

[Brownie74]

Yes 18% 237

No 82% 1088

Total Votes 1325

Thanks for the ping. Also go to Numbers USA and send free FAXes to your congresscritters and others.

This madness has to stop.