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To: WhiskeyPapa
The real rebels are the corrupt pc yankees who are running the government contrary to the intention of the Founding Fathers and the Constitution. These rebels who are running the government are the real traitors.

I would think you would welcome Southern Secession as a way of getting rid of strict Constitutional constructionists. Just think of the pc utopia the north would experience without the 'obstruction' of the Southern vote.

20 posted on 12/24/2001 5:05:35 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: CWRWinger
The real rebels are the corrupt pc yankees who are running the government contrary to the intention of the Founding Fathers and the Constitution.

Hmmm...George W. is from Texas, right? And Cheney is from Wyoming. Colin Powell is a southerner. He's from Jamaica, right?

Walt

28 posted on 12/24/2001 5:19:06 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: CWRWinger
The real rebels are the corrupt pc yankees who are running the government contrary to the intention of the Founding Fathers and the Constitution. These rebels who are running the government are the real traitors.

Well, here's the intention of one Framer:

"What stronger evidence can be given of the want of energy in our government than these disorders? If there exists not a power to check them, what security has a man of life, liberty, or property? To you, I am sure I need not add aught on this subject, the consequences of a lax or inefficient government, are too obvious to be dwelt on. Thirteen sovereignties pulling against each other, and all tugging at the federal head, will soon bring ruin to the whole; whereas a liberal, and energetic Constitution, well guarded and closely watched, to prevent encroachments, might restore us to that degree of respectability and consequence, to which we had a fair claim, and the brightest prospect of attaining..."

George Washington to James Madison November 5, 1786,

having said prior to the Constitutional Convention:

"I do not conceive we can exist long as a nation, without having lodged somewhere a power which will pervade the whole Union in as energetic a manner, as the authority of the different state governments extends over the several states. To be fearful of vesting Congress, constituted as that body is, with ample authorities for national purposes, appears to me to be the very climax of popular absurdity and madness."

George Washington to John Jay, 15 August 1786

"In all our deliberations on this subject we kept steadily in our view, that which appears to us the greatest interest of every true American, the consolidation of our Union, in which is involved our prosperity, felicity, safety, perhaps our national existance. This important consideration, seriously and deeply impressed on our minds [at the constitutional convention] led each State in the convention to be less rigid on points of inferior magnitude...the constitution, which we now present, is the result of of a spirit of amity, and of that mutual deference and concession which the peculularity of our political situation rendered indispensible."

George Washington to the Continental Congress September 17, 1787

George Washington was a southerner, and he was for a strong national union.

I ask this over and over, and it never gets any play:

How on earth did the image of George Washington get on the Great Seal of the CSA? Were the leaders of the south trying to dupe the common men into fighting for them, or what?

Walt

31 posted on 12/24/2001 5:24:53 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: CWRWinger
I would think you would welcome Southern Secession as a way of getting rid of strict Constitutional constructionists. Just think of the pc utopia the north would experience without the 'obstruction' of the Southern vote.

No, it's more like what my Momma used to say: Don't let the door bump you on the way out.

And oh, once you secede, don't come back to the US of A begging for "foreign aid."

39 posted on 12/24/2001 5:46:38 AM PST by Catspaw
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