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Green Global Tribunals on the Way
The New American ^ | December 31, 2001

Posted on 12/23/2001 9:41:58 PM PST by TheUglyAmerican

Green Global Tribunals on the Way

"The rights of victims of environmental disasters worldwide are to be formally recognized by the Permanent Court of Arbitration," reported a BBC News dispatch on November 26th. On that date the Hague-based international court signed "an agreement with the Cousteau environmental society as a basis for settling international environmental disputes between organizations and individuals. The Cousteau Society is placing a ship, the Alcyone, at the court’s disposal to carry out fact-finding commissions. It is the first time a court will give legitimacy to environmental disputes between individuals and organizations in an international context."

The Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) was created in 1899 at the end of a multinational peace conference in The Hague. Its present powers are set forth in the 1976 United Nations Commission on International Trade Law. The Cousteau Society is a UN-accredited "non-governmental organization" (NGO).

In recent years, UN officials and supporters have spoken of the need to deputize NGOs to serve fact-finding and enforcement missions on behalf of the world body. The entente between the PCA and the Cousteau Society certainly fits that description.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: cousteausociety; enviralists; globaloney; globalwarminghoax; green; kyotolist; ngos; sovereigntylist; unlist
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so lessee.... we keep giving the UN sc*mbags more power... and the UN sc*mbags keep giving more and more to its NGO henchmen, and Ron Paul seems to be the only guy in office with the guts to call it like he sees it?
1 posted on 12/23/2001 9:41:58 PM PST by TheUglyAmerican
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To: TheUglyAmerican
The New American = The John Birch Society = Whacko UN Conspiracy theory.
2 posted on 12/23/2001 9:57:26 PM PST by Free the USA
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To: TheUglyAmerican
Assume that there really is a group of puppeteers behind the scenes manipulating events in order to steer the World for their own benefit. One of the best ways for such a group to protect itself from possible discovery is to create an organization that will overwhelm the citizenry with wacko conspiracy theories. Then if an outsider gets close to uncovering the truth any reports can be dismissed as just another case like the already numerous discredited whacko theories. The John Birch Society’s leadership is in on the truth and is the vehicle of choice for presenting whacko conspiracy theories as cover.
3 posted on 12/23/2001 10:16:33 PM PST by Free the USA
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To: Free the USA
The New American = The John Birch Society = Whacko UN Conspiracy theory.
do tell! well then - perhaps you'd like to lay some of those "wacko" UN Conspiracy theoties on me

Assume that there really is a group of puppeteers behind the scenes manipulating events in order to steer the World for their own benefit. One of the best ways for such a group to protect itself from possible discovery is to create an organization that will overwhelm the citizenry with wacko conspiracy theories.
"overwhelm"??? agian I ask, name all of the "wacko" theories the citizens are being bombarded with
and as for "the best way to protect against posible discovery" - at this point they really aren't being very coy about what they have in mind... it's a pretty telegraphed punch, listen to any speech from the general assembly. It's now in the phase of clobbering anyone who opposes it as... [gasp] "isolationist"

Then if an outsider gets close to uncovering the truth any reports can be dismissed as just another case like the already numerous discredited whacko theories.
dismissed by whom? leftists who dig the one-world scene anyway... or Northern (R)s who are always racing to smooch the backside of the previously mentioned leftists ("See, Mr. Pointy-Headed pundit/professor, I'm not with those low-brow Birch-types... I worship at the alter of free trade, I feel that joining our global neighborhood is a good thing, my goodness aren't I ENLIGHTENED!! May I get my pat on the head for obedience now?"). I see you've also added "numerous" and "discredited" to tell the truth, what woke me up to the one-worlder government types' plan came out of the mouths of her champions

The John Birch Society’s leadership is in on the truth and is the vehicle of choice for presenting whacko conspiracy theories as cover.
lol oh yeah, the John Birch Society: handmaiden for the one-world government. Pal, if these guys weren't talking about it, there'd be but a handful who were - Schlaffly, North, a few Newsmax columnists and some talkradio guys (Savage, Dornan, Malzberg come to mind). Til then... wave to the AWACs buddy

4 posted on 12/25/2001 8:33:23 PM PST by TheUglyAmerican
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To: Free the USA
Free the USA = Another sheep to blind to see
6 posted on 12/25/2001 8:45:05 PM PST by robnoel
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To: TheUglyAmerican
I don't know about the Birchers. I heard some years ago, that after the founder of the society died that the society was funded by the Rockefellers. True? Beats me.

Saw a cartoon recently on Cartoon Network: Justice League. In one scene, Batman declines to shake hands with someone that he doesn't know. Superman says "He doesn't trust anyone." The "shakee" says "Good policy."

FWIW.

9 posted on 12/25/2001 8:48:34 PM PST by rack42
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To: boston_liberty
Others have had to wait more than a decade for their claims to be handled, like the relatives of the thousands in Bhopal, India, who died after the chemical spill at the US-owned Union Carbide plant in 1984.

Is there some reason that they couldn't sue in US Courts?

10 posted on 12/25/2001 8:51:53 PM PST by rack42
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To: rack42
On further reflection, why couldn't they sue in Indian courts? Is there no "mechanism" that would prevent them from collecting?
11 posted on 12/25/2001 8:54:19 PM PST by rack42
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To: boston_liberty
depends on what your definition of "disaster" is....
oh my.... Shamuu has a headache, call in the troops!!!

Seriously, I'm sure they'll use the utmost in prudence and sound science in deciding who to target [/sarcasm]

as an aside: One of the best ways for such a group to protect itself from possible discovery is to create an organization that will overwhelm the citizenry with wacko conspiracy theories... like the "right-wing" BBC!!! Bwahhahahahaha.

12 posted on 12/25/2001 8:56:02 PM PST by TheUglyAmerican
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To: TheUglyAmerican
Deputize the NGOs? Next it'll be Greenpiss duly deputized and cleared to distort and lie their way through whatever pet, BS, alarmist eco-scam du jour. The whole bunch of them are a vermin-infested nest of insufferable nincompoops and professional pickpockets. Pfft!
13 posted on 12/25/2001 8:58:14 PM PST by my trusty sig
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To: rack42
I heard some years ago, that after the founder of the society died that the society was funded by the Rockefellers. True? Beats me.
Highly doubtful... but I promise you I'll look into it. The organization isn't exactly flush with cash.

and on your cartoon watching, really... there are more fruitful ways of spending your time (TheUglyAmerican says as he uses Morpheus to download "World's Finest - Batman/Superman crossover) :)

14 posted on 12/25/2001 9:04:15 PM PST by TheUglyAmerican
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To: Free the USA
Assume that there really is a group of puppeteers behind the scenes manipulating events in order to steer the World for their own benefit.

Don't need to. It's in writing. The mechanics are easy to understand: convene a corrupt socialist organization (the UN) to use international law to exploit the major loophole in the Constitution (ratification of treaties) and manipulate the value of private property. It's a very profitable business which is why NGOs get so many dollars from "charitable" foundations. The process started well before the convocation of the UN. I like to call it Highly Organized Crime.

Just because you are clueless is no reason to call other people paranoid.

15 posted on 12/25/2001 9:06:29 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: TheUglyAmerican The New American = The John Birch Society = Whacko UN Conspiracy theory. 2 posted on 12/23/01 10:58 PM Pacific by Free the USA

One question? free the usa from who exactly? you are concerned with freeing the usa, yes? look again and at the article "Green Global Tribunals on the Way" and tell me, if we were to view it in a hypothetical sense, would this be something for the usa to be free from? if it were true? if in fact you were a concerned citizen, you would naturally look at some of the facts presented in the article and attempt to validate them. fact number one, THIS WAS REPORTED BY THE BBC, and then reiterated by the JBS. does that make the BBC equally wacko? fact number two, the friggin elitists at the hague's ICC signed it. supposedly, right? do something that a savior such as yourself will do and go to some ICC info sites and check out for your beloved country whether these euro-geeks actually did sign this monstrosity for the world. fact number three, the cousteau society is allegedly involved. you know, the cuddly french jack, who is on record saying the planet can only sustain 350,000 people and we have to start liquidating 100,000 a day if we have any chance of saving poor gaia and her wee little snails. save us oh mighty "free the usa" demi-god and go to a cousteau site and VALIDATE VALIDATE VALIDATE. FACTS #'s 4, 5, 6..... "The Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) was created in 1899 at the end of a multinational peace conference in The Hague. Its present powers are set forth in the 1976 United Nations Commission on International Trade Law. The Cousteau Society is a UN-accredited "non-governmental organization"" .......the PCA, did it in fact come into existence in 1899? does it exists? "1976 United Nations Commission on International Trade Law" outlines the PCA's present powers? look it up for us will you mighty savior. the cousteau society is a UN-accredited NGO? that's an easy one lazy ass. look, i don't care if this report came from pravda. spouting misguided and rather bland and typical malice like this serves no one. to attention soldier. war entails something other than polishing your rifle. you have a task to do....VALIDATE.

16 posted on 12/26/2001 5:39:07 AM PST by st huckleberry
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To: st huckleberry;Carry_Okie;TheUglyAmerican;boston_liberty;robnoel;
Does anyone really believe that the UN is as influential as it was in the 50’s and 60’s? In every major conflict in the last twenty years it is the U.S. that leads and the UN that follows. The UN likes to talk and run around and pretend that they have some relevance but for the most part they just waste lots of money and sit around and jabber to each other.

The UN can occasionally be of use as President Bush (41) used them to aid the US in the Gulf war. Whether you think the Gulf War was a good war or not it was the US leading the UN around.

Whenever America disagrees with some UN plan we either ignore it or Veto it. Take the recent Conference on Racism held in Durban South Africa. What penalties did America pay for skipping it?

Go back to the 60’s and look at all of the pro-UN propaganda coming out of our media and public schools. Now days when the UN is mentioned in America it is most apt to be with derision. Count media articles that are favorable verses unfavorable. The situation has completely reversed from what it was in the 60’s. I see no evidence that the UN is getting stronger or more influential. Right now the UN is a tool that can occasionally be used by America to serve its interests or simply ignored at our discretion.

JBS may have played a useful role in changing the image of the UN but now all they accomplish is to discredit opposition to the UN by constantly harping that the UN is taking over the World.

17 posted on 12/26/2001 9:17:27 AM PST by Free the USA
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It is the first time a court will give legitimacy to environmental disputes between individuals and organizations in an international context."

Are these code words for aiding individuals in Third World countries sue advanced (richer) countries, companies and individuals?
This is non-sensical, since the former countries invariably reserve for themselves the right and final word on conditions under which foreign companies do business.
This includes safety issues and concerns and exactly how they will be dealt with.

Some firm understandings need to be set in place before the US should even suggest it will accept the jurisdiction of this NGO.
NGOs are the latest tool of communism and socialism.
Most people have no idea how pervasive they are and what a threat they represent to all countries, primarily those which actually have something to lose.

18 posted on 12/26/2001 9:30:27 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: boston_liberty
Others have had to wait more than a decade for their claims to be handled, like the relatives of the thousands in Bhopal, India, who died after the chemical spill at the US-owned Union Carbide plant in 1984.

You sort of forgot to mention a very critical and relevant fact.
The government of India insisted (as do virtually all countries) on controlling ownership and final word of all details of operating in India.
That this makes it subject to corruption is an open secret.
To hold the minority partner which has no control over how, for instance, environmental issues are handled is ludicrous.

I am sure however that, given the opportunity, that is exactly what these parasite NGOs intend to do, if the minority "partner" happens to be a rich industrialized state.

19 posted on 12/26/2001 9:40:04 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: Publius6961
Jaques Cousteau (sp) was the biggest con artist of the last century.

In the late 50s and early 60s I used to dive with him at Catalina and he was a nothing that had a 32' flat black (so as to avoid the fish and game at night) steel hull motor sailer and was the biggest lobster poacher on the island. Basicly, he was a wine and cheese weekend bum, that spent his weekends anchored in 4th of July Harbor poaching. I can't say that I didn't poach my share.

He conned the French government to fund him and his "society" for money and his environmentalism was a total scam and con job.

20 posted on 12/26/2001 9:57:58 AM PST by dalereed
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