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To: TheUglyAmerican The New American = The John Birch Society = Whacko UN Conspiracy theory. 2 posted on 12/23/01 10:58 PM Pacific by Free the USA

One question? free the usa from who exactly? you are concerned with freeing the usa, yes? look again and at the article "Green Global Tribunals on the Way" and tell me, if we were to view it in a hypothetical sense, would this be something for the usa to be free from? if it were true? if in fact you were a concerned citizen, you would naturally look at some of the facts presented in the article and attempt to validate them. fact number one, THIS WAS REPORTED BY THE BBC, and then reiterated by the JBS. does that make the BBC equally wacko? fact number two, the friggin elitists at the hague's ICC signed it. supposedly, right? do something that a savior such as yourself will do and go to some ICC info sites and check out for your beloved country whether these euro-geeks actually did sign this monstrosity for the world. fact number three, the cousteau society is allegedly involved. you know, the cuddly french jack, who is on record saying the planet can only sustain 350,000 people and we have to start liquidating 100,000 a day if we have any chance of saving poor gaia and her wee little snails. save us oh mighty "free the usa" demi-god and go to a cousteau site and VALIDATE VALIDATE VALIDATE. FACTS #'s 4, 5, 6..... "The Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) was created in 1899 at the end of a multinational peace conference in The Hague. Its present powers are set forth in the 1976 United Nations Commission on International Trade Law. The Cousteau Society is a UN-accredited "non-governmental organization"" .......the PCA, did it in fact come into existence in 1899? does it exists? "1976 United Nations Commission on International Trade Law" outlines the PCA's present powers? look it up for us will you mighty savior. the cousteau society is a UN-accredited NGO? that's an easy one lazy ass. look, i don't care if this report came from pravda. spouting misguided and rather bland and typical malice like this serves no one. to attention soldier. war entails something other than polishing your rifle. you have a task to do....VALIDATE.

16 posted on 12/26/2001 5:39:07 AM PST by st huckleberry
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To: st huckleberry;Carry_Okie;TheUglyAmerican;boston_liberty;robnoel;
Does anyone really believe that the UN is as influential as it was in the 50’s and 60’s? In every major conflict in the last twenty years it is the U.S. that leads and the UN that follows. The UN likes to talk and run around and pretend that they have some relevance but for the most part they just waste lots of money and sit around and jabber to each other.

The UN can occasionally be of use as President Bush (41) used them to aid the US in the Gulf war. Whether you think the Gulf War was a good war or not it was the US leading the UN around.

Whenever America disagrees with some UN plan we either ignore it or Veto it. Take the recent Conference on Racism held in Durban South Africa. What penalties did America pay for skipping it?

Go back to the 60’s and look at all of the pro-UN propaganda coming out of our media and public schools. Now days when the UN is mentioned in America it is most apt to be with derision. Count media articles that are favorable verses unfavorable. The situation has completely reversed from what it was in the 60’s. I see no evidence that the UN is getting stronger or more influential. Right now the UN is a tool that can occasionally be used by America to serve its interests or simply ignored at our discretion.

JBS may have played a useful role in changing the image of the UN but now all they accomplish is to discredit opposition to the UN by constantly harping that the UN is taking over the World.

17 posted on 12/26/2001 9:17:27 AM PST by Free the USA
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