Posted on 12/22/2001 5:27:16 PM PST by aculeus
But if the arguments in Anamensis' previous reply was correct (decent women enjoy sex anyway, the idea that you are "raping" a woman while offering lifetime financial coverage and social respectability (technically) doesn't strike them as horrific) OR the followers of Islam were expected to be incredibly morally upright and not take advantage, it is anacceptable that their "contract" with these girls would force them - sooner or later - into marriage.
Chapt 4:3 of the Holy Qur'an: "...you may marry that whom your right hands possess (-your female captives of war). That is the best way to avoid doing injustice." (emphasis added)
What the civilized world regards as rape, Islam regards as "the best way to avoid doing
Well put
Re Post #9 If it was my daughter or sister and I ever found the guy, I'd tie him up, dissolve his you-know-what in a beaker of sulfuric acid, then give him a lye enema, and finish him off with a slow feed into a chipper shredder.
Mr. Yorker, you may not be familiar with the Holy Qur'an, but you have the spirit of the Hadiths (the sayings of Muhommed.) (He described in detail what he did to the infidels.) You could be the next Muhommed.
I'm with ya... although, I must tell you (donning asbestos suit) it's feminism that's made the difference.
You'll say, Say it isn't so, Joe!! But yeah, it kinda is. See, back when women were unable to hold property, etc (and this is more English society than American, but we inherited so much from them, what can I say) it was also considered very honorable to marry young girls, it was "taking responsibility" and protecting the girl. Now, one big difference is, we have pretty much always been monogamous, from what I remember. (Utah doesn't count right now, kay?) But anyway, nowdays we don't realize that to these guys, when a girl is married, she is given instant respectability, shielded (in part) from sexual suspicion. This is important in a society where they stone 13 year old girls for the crime of having been gang-raped. We don't see it that way cause our women don't need that kind of protection. (And feminism has made it so. Now I say, good, it's served its purpose, can we retire it now?? But anyway...)
So they are really incompatible with us. And I'm not willing to make whatever changes would be necessary to MAKE us compatible with them. Make them compatible with US, fine. Otherwise, no. But that's me. (-:
Yes, you're right, according to the Koran, if I remember correctly (Chap 4?) women are not supposed to be forced into marriage. But you know how folks are, when they really want something, they can find loopholes...
Re:Post #17 There may be Koran connections with this practice...
Chapt 4:3 of the Holy Qur'an: "...you may marry that whom your right hands possess (-your female captives of war). That is the best way to avoid doing injustice." (emphasis added)
What the civilized world regards as rape, Islam regards as "the best way to avoid doing injustice."
Re: post #2 Islam is piece.
Well put
Re Post #9 If it was my daughter or sister and I ever found the guy, I'd tie him up, dissolve his you-know-what in a beaker of sulfuric acid, then give him a lye enema, and finish him off with a slow feed into a chipper shredder.
Mr. Yorker, you may not be familiar with the Holy Qur'an, but you have the spirit of the Hadiths (the sayings of Muhommed) when he described in detail what he did to the infidels.) You could be the next Muhommed.
I am, however, in favor of such things as would deter future Islamic terrorists. The ideas that come to mind include public humiliation and a pigskin burial suit.
From what I gather, those would be unthinkable for any Muslim to intentionally walk into. And they shouldn't be a problem for the non-terrorist type Muslim.
Go shopping for the secular Xmas hoilday to keep wallstreet afloat...and be quiet
I'd favor having him declared legally insane (in spite of the Soviet Union's use of this tactic) and when he's buried, make sure his body faces away from Mecca.
But the larger problem of Islam would remain. The Holy Qur'an is a path to world domination, ala Hitler, Napolean. The peaceful Muslims are the ones that ignore the Holy Qur'an's most abominable commands (9:121 "O you who believe! Fight such of the disbelievers as dwell near to you and let them find firmness in you...") But they are not good Muslims.
At the very least, Islam is organized crime when you consider 20% of their ill gotten gains are to shared with their church (8:41). Maybe our Justice Department should take them seriously and jail their leaders and bankrupt their organization. From what I hear, the Mafia only charges 10% when you operate under their protection.
If the founder of the Ku Klux Klan had only claimed that God had commanded him to kill all the blacks, today all the Grand Dragons would be on TV telling us "KKK is love" and complaining about all the "KKK bashing" that's going on.
Right on target. The only thing I can find to disagree with you on is your use of the word "Holy" to describe the Muslim Murder & Mayhem Manual.
There are plenty of other adjectives that more accurately describe the qualities inherent in the book:
Diabolical, twisted, evil, malignant, vile, despicable, contemptible, depraved, wicked, abominable, loathsome, foul, malevolent, nefarious, atrocious, appalling, dreadful, awful, horrendous, inexcusable, unspeakable, outrageous, scandalous, immoral, shameful, indecent, reprehesible, decadent, perverse, vicious, inhuman, sadistic, fierce, brutal, nasty, malicious, merciless, incorerent, disjointed, rambling, confused, illogical, horrid, revolting, nauseating ...
When I first read this, I thought they might have been tallking about Utah.
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