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The anthrax road leads toward Saddam
Indianapolis Star ^ | December 22, 2001 | JAMES PATTERSON

Posted on 12/22/2001 10:10:57 AM PST by OKCSubmariner

The current line from Washington is that the anthrax pestilence responsible for killing five people and making millions more anxious about the daily mail may have been home-grown.

A White House spokesman says evidence indicates that the anthrax may have originated from a domestic source. But spokesman Ari Fleischer came across as less than convincing.

"We're still looking," said Fleischer. "We've all got different feelings about it. We're gathering as much information (as possible)." Though he promised information about the probe would be released at the appropriate time, there is no reason to expect that investigators will be any closer to an answer next month.

Put simply, if they are looking for the source of the anthrax terror campaign in the United States, they are probably looking in the wrong place. A growing number of terrorism experts, from acclaimed consultant and author Yossef Bodansky of the Freeman Center for Strategic Studies to former Israeli intelligence operative William Northrop to author Elliot Goldenberg, say they have good reason to believe the road lined with anthrax spores leads straight to Baghdad.

Indeed, if the anthrax came from Saddam Hussein's suspected biochemical weapons program, which Goldenberg believes was aided by the U.S. government to offset the spread of radical Islamism, primarily from Iran, then the U.S. is unlikely to have the will to do anything about it.

Here's why. CNN reported a few days ago that former Iranian President Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani said if the U.S. persists in maintaining its alliance with Israel, it risks "starting World War III."

Despite what Islamic countries indicate publicly, "Anti-Jewishness and anti-Judaism constitute a major political instrument in the hands of both state governments and Islamic terrorist organizations to mobilize the entire region for the destruction of Israel -- irrespective of diplomatic treaties, including the current peace process," Bodansky wrote.

It's the same line of information that U.S. Naval Intelligence analyst Jonathan Pollard warned the Israelis about over and over again in the mid-1980s. Though the files that Pollard passed to Israel are still classified, he is the reason the Israeli public began building sealed rooms and stocking gas masks.

Instead of constructing nuclear bomb shelters, as were common in the U.S. during the Cold War, Israeli citizens began building air-tight rooms when documents that Pollard smuggled to their government showed Iraq was steeped in developing weapons of mass destruction.

Pollard, a Jew who grew up in South Bend, felt compelled to furnish Israel with intelligence vital to its security because higher-ups in U.S. intelligence were withholding the information, in spite of the 1983 U.S.-Israel Exchange of Information Agreement. The documents included satellite photos detailing Iraq's burgeoning biochemical weapons program.

"It was Pollard's information, according to my sources, that caused Israel to be on alert over what Saddam Hussein had and was ready to use," said Goldenberg, author of The Hunting Horse. "By the way, the Scuds (missiles) that landed in Tel Aviv were not carrying biochemical weapons. And I believe maybe some of them (that landed) in Saudi Arabia did have biochemical warheads."

If true, that means American GIs who fought during the Gulf War were exposed to biochemical weapons, which Pollard received a life sentence for warning the Israeli government about years earlier.

As everyone knows by now, Pollard was right about Iraq's budding biochemical weapons program. According to The New York Times, in August 1998, United Nations weapons inspectors discovered evidence that Iraq had at one time nearly 200 missiles and bombs with various biochemical warheads, including Botulinum toxin, Aflatoxin and anthrax.

Before scurrying out of town Thursday for Christmas, the House, in a joint resolution passed 392-12, demanded that Iraq allow weapons inspectors back in. Don't hold your breath.

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Patterson is a Star editorial writer. Contact him at 1-317-444-6174


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
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Before the Gulf War, former President Bush and the CIA directly helped Iraq acquire weapons of mass destruction through men like Ishan and Heider Barbouti (IBI, Houston Texas).

These weapons included cynaide gas, anthrax and nuclear weapons maufacturing capabilities.

Is this why current President GW Bush has been slow to go after Iraq for anthrax and other weapons of mass destruction Iraq has because his father, former President Bush heplped Iraq acquire them??

Former President Bush personally was involved in the approval of hundreds of dual use export licenses by the US COmmerce department for nuclear technology for Iraq. I saw and heard Congressman Sam Gonzales read from these Bush persoanlly approved export licenses on the floor of Congress shortly before the Gulf War.

There is also mounting evidence that former President Bush gave neutron bomb technology to the CHinese who are close allies of Iraq.

There is evidence that the Chinese have helped Iraq research and possibly acquire a suitcase (baseball size)neutron bomb capability. China and possibly Iraq can and may have given nuclear bombs (suitcase sized conventianal fissile and high energy neutron nuclear devices) to AlQaeda and Bin Laden for terrorists to bring into the US and us agasint US citizens and infrastructure targets.

The FBI is currently searching the US for nuclear devices believed to have been bought into the US with Iraqi, Chinese and/or AlQaeda participation.

1 posted on 12/22/2001 10:10:57 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: BlueDogDemo,super175,Squantos,roughrider,golitely,flamefront,rightwing2,rubbertramp,honway,ariste
BUMP!
2 posted on 12/22/2001 10:15:20 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Nita Nupress
BUMP!
3 posted on 12/22/2001 10:15:52 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Mitchell; gumbo; bvw; aristeides; Betty Jo; Nita Nupress
Super post. I'm sure the Bushies will be here shortly.
4 posted on 12/22/2001 10:16:51 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
Super post. I'm sure the Bushies will be here shortly.

Yea super post if you like unfounded speculation and accusations ...the first part of this is an editorial writer named JAMES PATTERSON after the line who is doing the talking ? OKCSubmariner? wow that has a lot of validity....

5 posted on 12/22/2001 10:25:21 AM PST by woofie
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To: OKCSubmariner
Bump NADA!

This is mostly propaganda. I am for Israel, but POLLARD IS A CONVICTED SPY. Isreal is pushing BS because they want to free him as his reward.

I agree that IRAQ is the source as they have the same stains of Anthrax as the US. However their Intelligence is making overtures - they know this is the last chance. Guess they knew popa Bush would chicken out. Therefore Israel wants to knock out IRAQ before Jr gets a chance to back out.

I think we should make a deal with IRAQ and have them give us the terrorist data they promised, destroy all their missles, bombs etc , then turn on him and oust him for a moderate - no war just normal political treatchery (like the Dems)

The FBI is LOOKING HAHHAHAAH. Ther AEC has trucks at all time patrolling major cities looking for signs of radio activity. The Feebes will not find anything. If they LET IT GET IN HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO FIND IT - also if the AEC finds it the FEEBES will take credit and ask for more funds. BREAK THEM UP BEFORE WE HAVE A REAL DISASTER

6 posted on 12/22/2001 10:26:24 AM PST by Henchman
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To: Gary Aldrich
BUMP!
8 posted on 12/22/2001 10:38:14 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner; Fred Mertz
And I believe maybe some of them (that landed) in Saudi Arabia did have biochemical warheads."

The cause of Gulf War Syndrome.

9 posted on 12/22/2001 10:52:26 AM PST by aristeides
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To: JoeEveryman; Clinton's a Rapist; anthrax_scare_list; gumbo; alamo-girl
If Clinton's a Rapist is right, and the purpose of the anthrax letters was to put our government on notice that Saddam Hussein is blackmailing them with the anthrax threat, there would be no reason for more deliveries at this point. That's another possible explanation of the cessation of anthrax letters.
10 posted on 12/22/2001 10:54:16 AM PST by aristeides
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To: JoeEveryman,BlueDogDemo,Fred Mertz,super175,Squantos,Nita Nupress,Nancie Drew,golitely,ChaseR,Cha
JoeEveryman wrote in reply #7: ..." Those investigating have interrupted the guilty parties or there would be more bacterial infections taking place at present." and ...."who is no longer here and unable to do it."

I am glad the dragnet stopped a lot of people. But the FBI and DOJ warnings persist because they are not confident they have found everyone (people still here associated with the 9/11 groups)) that can launch further attacks using explosives, chemicals, biologicals (small pox is still on the radar screen) and nuclear devices. It is not just me or Jim Patterson who is warning the public about this, it is Aschcroft, the DOJ, Mueller and the FBI.

The others who were here before 9/11 and are still here are 5 AlQaeda cells ( identified by Wash Post piece by Bob Woodward), three Abu Nidal cells and countless Hamas cells (OKC also) in the US that the FBI has deliberately still not moved against for political reasons. These groups can pick and chose when they may strike next. Do not take comfort yet from the relative quite and calm we have currently. Our own government is warning us there is more to come.

And there is the specter of more immigrants coming into the US that were not here on 9/11 but are here now or who will be here soon. There were several articles on FR about Syrian and Saudi pilots being allowed to go to Dallas flight schools under questionable circumstances well after 9/11. The borders with Mexico and Canada are not secure enough yet and even Aschroft has said that.

11 posted on 12/22/2001 10:55:11 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Gary Aldrich
Please see reply #11
12 posted on 12/22/2001 10:57:01 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
Here's why...

Unadulturated "Let America fight Israel's enemies" bullshit follows.

Weak.

Doesn't stop them from trying though.

But then what would you expect from the Middle Eastern bazaar traders?

13 posted on 12/22/2001 10:58:35 AM PST by madrussian
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To: madrussian,Hopalong,Gary Aldrich,BlueDogDemo,roughrider,super175,golitely,Fred Mertz,Plummz,LSJoh
Are you not a fan of Israelis or of Arabs or of neither when you write in reply #13:

"But then what would you expect from the Middle Eastern bazaar traders?"

What do you think should be done about Iraq or Saddam and his weapons of mass destruction that he is giving to Arab terrorists and that he is training them to use against Russians and Americans?

14 posted on 12/22/2001 11:10:20 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Henchman
This is mostly propaganda. I am for Israel, but POLLARD IS A CONVICTED SPY. Isreal is pushing BS because they want to free him as his reward. - Henchman

Care to explain this letter from Pollard to Sharon?

Dear Prime Minister Sharon,

The transcript of a tape secretly recorded November 23, 2001 at a meeting of Likud Party activists in Kyriat Gat has been brought to my attention. I wish to take issue with your crude comments about me.

To poke fun at an Israeli agent who has spent 16 years in prison for service to the State of Israel reflects a shocking callousness, and is an insult to all who faithfully serve the State. Moreover, the fact that those Likud members present responded to your unstatesmanlike behavior with laughter, rather than reproach, shows how debased the Likud party has become.

Mr. Sharon, I have no illusions about your intentions for me. Our mutual friend, the late Rechavam Ze'evi z"l, never recovered from the shock after you made it clear to him last Passover, that rather than expend any effort to seek my release, you prefer that I die in prison.

Mr. Prime Minister, I have served the State of Israel faithfully and do not deserve to be so spurned - or ridiculed - by the head of the government. Whether or not you personally desire it, you are morally and legally bound to do everything in your power to secure my release. G-d Almighty - and history - will be the judge of your failure to fulfill your obligations as leader of the State of Israel.

In the meantime, I believe a public apology is in order from the leader of the Jewish State to one of its faithful and long-suffering agents. The honor of all those who serve the State is at stake.

Yours truly,

Jonathan Pollard

PS If your memory needs refreshing, your exact quotes were cited in an interview with Arutz-7 Radio.

(http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=9327)
15 posted on 12/22/2001 11:11:34 AM PST by vrwc54
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To: OKCSubmariner
If my memory serves, it seems to me a few years ago, it came out, though it was not highly publicized, that we provided Anthrax for weapons experiements to Sadaam Hussein, several years before that. I think it was about the time of the inspections and the folderoll of firing the one guy, American, who knew something about the truth of Iraq's weapons, and who worked for the UN, who was so roundly criticized, before being fired for telling the truth.
16 posted on 12/22/2001 11:41:12 AM PST by XBob
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To: OKCSubmariner
I prefer acting on facts and in America's interests, simply put. Facts aren't there, and you can spot bullshit for what it is.

As for weapons of mass destruction, Pakistan, that supported the Taliban, has them. Israel has them and is not shy to threaten their use, both against all Arabs and any other country they may suspect of "not helping them enough".

As for Iraq, they are one of the most secular countries there. They have regional ambitions, who doesn't?

17 posted on 12/22/2001 11:58:37 AM PST by madrussian
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To: OKCSubmariner
ALERT: angry Saddam and Ben Ladin do have plan to attack America, government acknowledges (02/03/1999)
18 posted on 12/22/2001 12:05:32 PM PST by Orion78
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To: vrwc54,Fred Mertz,BlueDogDemo,roughrider,aristeides,golitely,super175,Squantos,Nancie Drew,Secret
I know the feeling of being betrayed by one's own government.

I was crucified by the Reagan/Bush and former Bush adminstrations and the FBI for my refusal of their insistance I work on a project involving the direct transfer of SDI and nuclear technology to Russian scientists at Kirtland AFB and also at Los Alamos in the 1980s.

At one time I was a project engineer for Admiral Rickover for the Trident submarine nuclear power plant. I have done PHD work on nuclear fusion and have several inventions/patents in that area.

The FBI and CIA also facilitated not only the transfer of the neutron bomb to the CHinese but also of SDI technology to the Chinese at Kirtland AFB as well. The FBI/CIA and former President Bush betrayed their own Army Intelligence over this matter.

If I were Israel I would not trust GW Bush to adequately protect Israel. Like his father, GW Bush could not only betray his own loyal and patriotic Christian countrymen (myself) and but also Jews and the state of Israel.

Remember that on 9/11, Sec of State Colin Powell was to have addressed the UN to propose a Palestinian State and to propose that the PLO take control of those parts of Jerusalem having Christian Holy sites. GW BUSH endorsed this plan of Powell which betrayed not only Christains but also the state of Isreal. Bush had not even consulted with Israeli officials before the speech was to have been given even though he had consulted with European and Arab leaders on his proposal beforehand.

I believe that GW Bush's betrayal of Christians and Israel planned on 9/11 before the UN was put on hold as a result of the terror atttacks (I do not condone the terror attacks, they were evil and wrong). Bush does not understand that Jerusalem shall be a cup of trembling and a burdesnome stone for all those who deal treacherously with her and against God's plans (according to what my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ has said in the Bible).

For the CIA/FBI/ Bush goons out there-I have never communicated any secret or confidential nuclear or military matters to any Israeli or any representative of Isreal or Russia or China or any foreign nation even though members of my own government have done so illegally numerous times.

19 posted on 12/22/2001 12:09:06 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: madrussian,Hopalong,LSJohn,roughrider,BlueDogDemo,golitely,honway,rit,ChaseR,flamefront,Chapita,b
From reply #17 madrussian wrote in response to my question to him about what should be done about Iraq and Saddam's weapons of mass destruction (reply #14):

"As for Iraq, they are one of the most secular countries there. They have regional ambitions, who doesn't?"

Should I take this to mean that you believe nothing should be done about Iraq and Saddam and his weapons of mass destruction.?

When you say "who doesn't have regional ambitions " are you including Russia ?

Russia and Putin I noticed warned the US recently not to take any action against the Russian client state of Iraq.

20 posted on 12/22/2001 12:23:11 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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