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To: Sueann
Well, if women shall not speak in church, can you explain to me why Jesus would select a WOMAN to start a church?? When Jesus spoke to the woman at the well, and told her what HE knew about her life, she went into the village and gathered all the people to hear HIM. I'm sure the scripture says she started a church in her home.

You see, the two don't agree - if you say women can't speak in church.

I DID NOT SAY women cannot speak in church. The argument in most of this thread has been with Viva, who said women are not supposed to teach or preach in church because Paul says: "Let the women keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak." I said that Paul is referring to spiritual gifts ONLY in this chapter and that he was saying women should not speak in tongues at church.

275 posted on 12/30/2001 6:36:36 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
"Paul says: 'Let the women keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak.' I said that Paul is referring to spiritual gifts ONLY in this chapter and that he was saying women should not speak in tongues at church."

Okay - lets take a look at what Paul said, "let the wives keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak". You see, the word is WIVES not WOMEN. Paul was talking about WIVES spending too much time trying to discuss household things with their husbands during church.

Secondly, even if Paul was referring to spiritual gifts, he was not in any way saying WOMEN should not be allowed to speak in tongues in the church. Besides, the other reason Paul was hesitant about wives having any influence in the church was because most of the wives of the Corinthian churches had just come out from another religion, "the worship of the Goddess Diana". Paul did not want them to be allowed to teach or have any authority in the church because they were such new Christians and Paul didn't want them confusing the message with the Goddess Diana stuff.

As for authority for what I'm telling you, I got my informaton from Brother Hagin - who has been in ministry for over 60 years. He built Rhema Bible Training Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I don't know when he started the school, but it gets bigger and bigger each year. I would trust what Brother Hagin says over a lot of people. You can go to the Rhema web site and find Brother Hagin's books there. He wrote a book called, "The Woman Question". You might find it enlightening.

279 posted on 12/30/2001 6:55:38 PM PST by Sueann
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