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To: nicmarlo
"Paul says: 'Let the women keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak.' I said that Paul is referring to spiritual gifts ONLY in this chapter and that he was saying women should not speak in tongues at church."

Okay - lets take a look at what Paul said, "let the wives keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak". You see, the word is WIVES not WOMEN. Paul was talking about WIVES spending too much time trying to discuss household things with their husbands during church.

Secondly, even if Paul was referring to spiritual gifts, he was not in any way saying WOMEN should not be allowed to speak in tongues in the church. Besides, the other reason Paul was hesitant about wives having any influence in the church was because most of the wives of the Corinthian churches had just come out from another religion, "the worship of the Goddess Diana". Paul did not want them to be allowed to teach or have any authority in the church because they were such new Christians and Paul didn't want them confusing the message with the Goddess Diana stuff.

As for authority for what I'm telling you, I got my informaton from Brother Hagin - who has been in ministry for over 60 years. He built Rhema Bible Training Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I don't know when he started the school, but it gets bigger and bigger each year. I would trust what Brother Hagin says over a lot of people. You can go to the Rhema web site and find Brother Hagin's books there. He wrote a book called, "The Woman Question". You might find it enlightening.

279 posted on 12/30/2001 6:55:38 PM PST by Sueann
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To: Sueann
Well, Vernon McGee's Bible does not say wives, it says women (it's not New American Standard, but it sound close); the New American Standard version does not say wives, it says women; and the New International Version does not say wives, it also says women.

In fact the NIV says: "As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says."

Now, the other argument going on here concerning women, had to do with their hair. I quoted McGee up above as saying that contrary to what Viva was saying, God does not command women to have long hair, Paul wrote only that it is preferable that women have long hair. Why? Because the prostitutes then have their heads shaved. Paul said that the women of Corinth should not have short hair; that McGee said it was solely directed toward the women of Corinth, not a blanket statement to all women, forever, to have long hair.

282 posted on 12/30/2001 7:09:54 PM PST by nicmarlo
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