[SpikeG]

Hmmm... Sounds like they were close but got it backwards. In the mythology of the planets Jupiter represents the son who is born to a father who intends to kill him at birth because prophecy states that said son will cause the downfall of the father. The Mother hides the infant at birth. The son matures in hiding and emerges to fullfill the prophecy. In this conjunction Mars represents war and aggression between the father and son. Since Saturn represents an old king and an establishment. The conjunction would would most likely affect the nation where the culmination of the conjunction occurred by manifesting the mythology of the archetypes involved,(hence the wise men knowing where the baby king would be born and the circumstances of the fated childs birth.) It is a well known fact among theologians that Christ's celebrated bithdate was chosen by the church to superimpose on the pagan midwinter holidays to assist in converting said pagans to christianity and to bring conquered nations under Roman control. If you can control a people's religion ....you can control a people.

[Channel_Islands_EANx_Diver]

Good points. There is, as well, far more evidence that Jesus was the fabrication of the Romans in order to consolidate the varied religions of conquered states.

All these Biblical stories have counterparts in religious myths going all the way back to the Assyrians and Caananites.

[Aquinasfan]

Hmmm... Sounds like they were close but got it backwards.

I probably got it wrong. I've heard it three times and still can't remember it :-)

In the mythology of the planets Jupiter represents the son who is born to a father who intends to kill him at birth because prophecy states that said son will cause the downfall of the father. The Mother hides the infant at birth. The son matures in hiding and emerges to fullfill the prophecy. In this conjunction Mars represents war and aggression between the father and son. Since Saturn represents an old king and an establishment.

OK.

The conjunction would would most likely affect the nation where the culmination of the conjunction occurred by manifesting the mythology of the archetypes involved,(hence the wise men knowing where the baby king would be born and the circumstances of the fated childs birth.)

Although they did say that the conjunction appeared over the constellation (Pisces?) that represented Israel.

It is a well known fact among theologians that Christ's celebrated bithdate was chosen by the church to superimpose on the pagan midwinter holidays to assist in converting said pagans to christianity and to bring conquered nations under Roman control. If you can control a people's religion ....you can control a people.

I do remember the person being interviewed stating that Jesus' birth most likely occurred during Passover since Jewish men travelled to Jerusalem during Passover (?) thus explaining the fact that there was "no room at the inn."

[Flying Circus]

The co opting of Pagan holidays has little to do with the selection of December 25 for the celebration of Christ's birth. The date rather rests on an estimation of the conception of John the Baptist. John the Baptist's conception is believed to have been in the fall around the vernal equinox (October 25). The annunciation to Mary occurred six months later (Feast day March 25) and Jesus would be born 9 months later on December 25.

This date was also supported by the ancient belief that great men died on the same date they were conceived. The date of passover the year Christ is believed to have have died was March 25.