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Talking Points to use to counter Pro-Military Republicans and this awful War! (My title)
The War Resister Movement ^ | Dec 10 2001 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 12/20/2001 5:58:26 PM PST by vannrox

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FYI - These people are book-smart and exceptionally stupid. They are nincompoops.


1 posted on 12/20/2001 5:58:27 PM PST by vannrox (MyEMail)
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I feel sick after reading this one.

To this end the United States must more consistently work for the ideals of... self determination that it claims to champion

If the U.S. acts for the self determination of another country it is no longer self determination, but rather US determination. It is typical liberal elitest thinking to believe that they know what is best for everyone. These people are not book smart in any way, shape or form, they simply regurgitate senseless crap that mindless profesors spew at them. The best thing for US self determination is the evaporation of these subhumans ( I am refering both to liberals and terrorist nations).

2 posted on 12/20/2001 6:27:37 PM PST by antienvironmentalist
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Plus self determination is just an excuse for secessionist terrorist groups everywhere.
3 posted on 12/20/2001 6:40:47 PM PST by weikel
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To: vannrox
Sep. 11 was not an act of war. It was a crime — just as hijacking one jet plane has always been a crime — even though the consequences were horrific. Wars are fought by nation-states, or armies that want to control nation-states, against other states, for control of a defined geographic area.

That's silly, killing on a small scale is a crime, on a large scale, orchestrated killing is a war. Wars can be fought by anyone with an army--in this case, Al Qaida's terrorists qualify as an "army."

4 posted on 12/20/2001 6:44:06 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: vannrox
Thanks for the post. Even though they constantly telegraph their moves, it is always nice to have a copy of the enemy's playbook.
5 posted on 12/20/2001 6:53:02 PM PST by spectre
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To: antienvironmentalist
They won't be able to kiss their a$$ good-bye when the time comes because there head is already up it.
6 posted on 12/20/2001 7:00:35 PM PST by mathurine
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You cannot conquer a tactic; what is needed is persuasion,.......

That is what we are doing. We have persuaded the Taliban to give up power and Al Qaeda to hide in caves or run for their lives. We are very good persuaders.

7 posted on 12/20/2001 7:06:59 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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There are so many places to shoot that I just can't make up my mind what to shoot at first.

How about the idea that Iraq is a friendly nation pushed around by big bully U.S.? Do these people remember that Saddam GASSED Kurd villages and killed them with yellow death?

The bottom line for these folks is to just lay down our arms because the world is a friendly place and everything will be ok. Stupid.

8 posted on 12/20/2001 7:13:45 PM PST by xzins
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um, hello? Persuade, and how pray tell do we do that? Lets see hey taliban hand over Bin Laden, Taliban say drop dead. I guess the solution would be to bug them to death and hope they listen, and as for Iraq. What democratic groups? All oposition is banned. What islamic countries are there out there that are really democratic? That even grant basic human rights? Who the hell are we supposed to talk to? Or should we deal with rebel democratic groups i.e. groups the governments would consider terrorists?
10 posted on 12/20/2001 7:17:35 PM PST by Sonny M
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Do we have any good friends in the NYPD or NYFD who we can direct to these people's office? Perhaps the good fire & police men would like to give them a piece of their minds at:

War Resisters League

339 Lafayette Street

New York, NY 10012

11 posted on 12/20/2001 7:20:23 PM PST by Uncle Miltie
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ICE.

?????????

Damn shame to have a language and not be able to communicate with it.

12 posted on 12/20/2001 7:22:24 PM PST by xzins
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To: vannrox
Dear War Resisters League.

Thank you for spreading your beliefs in nonviolence. It is people like you that keeps the spark of hope alive in our movement. Unfortunatly we do not think that the majority of your American compatriots agree with you, but please do not let that interfere with your work. As long as we know their are groups like you in this world we will keep up our efforts in the Western Hemisphere.

Best Wishes

Saddam Hussein

13 posted on 12/20/2001 7:27:14 PM PST by antienvironmentalist
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Sorry. I tried, but couldn't finish reading it. I exceeded my maximum recommended b*llsh*t quota for 2001 somewhere in the third bulleted section. By the end of the sixth bulleted item I had used up most of my 2002 allowance. Maybe I'll save it and finish reading it a few years from now.
14 posted on 12/20/2001 7:29:01 PM PST by WayneM
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I belonged to the War Resisters League when I was 20, but that was a long time ago, and I was out of it 2 years later. They were a lot smarter then, or at least they had a lot better case to make against the War in Vietnam, which was just beginning to escalate. Like so much of the Left, the rhetoric hasn't evolved, the mindset still doesn't take into account what makes 9-11 completely different from anything we've faced before. It's amazing how the Left is still back there in 1966--must be something inherent in Leftism that makes it perenially attractive to adolescents, and to keep them adolescents.
15 posted on 12/20/2001 7:42:42 PM PST by willyboyishere
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Believing war to be a crime against humanity, the War Resisters League, founded in 1923, advocates Gandhian nonviolence as the method for creating a democratic society free of war, racism, sexism, and human exploitation.

1923... that means that if they had their way, we'd either be dead or wearing swastikas. Waste of space.

16 posted on 12/20/2001 7:59:07 PM PST by kezekiel
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Hell Yes! Darn right!
17 posted on 12/20/2001 8:18:43 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: vannrox
JUSTICE — NOT WAR!!

These people sound like they're 42 going on 8.

What a puerile statement.

More often than we like, War is justice.
Most aware adults know this.

18 posted on 12/20/2001 8:19:13 PM PST by Publius6961
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Believing war to be a crime against humanity, the War Resisters League, founded in 1923, advocates Gandhian nonviolence as the method for creating a democratic society free of war, racism, sexism, and human exploitation.

Nonviolence can only succeed when used against people with morals. Had Gandhi attempted nonviolent protest in Nazi Germany he would have ended up a lampshade on Hitler's desk.

19 posted on 12/20/2001 8:23:57 PM PST by SunTzuWu
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the Left is still back there in 1966

They won then, but now they are clueless because it didn't work out all that well. Maryjane lies. She always did, she always will.

20 posted on 12/20/2001 8:36:57 PM PST by RightWhale
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