An Islamic Society With a Secular State

NYT ^ | December 16, 2001 | SOMINI SENGUPTA

[a_Turk]

Sibel Can, an aging Turkish Model is getting ready for her fourth child.

Just to show you something you might not have expected.

Here's a link to the Milliyet daily newspaper. It's Turkish, but go ahead and enjoy the pictures.

[a_Turk]

Ping

[a_Turk]

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[a_Turk]

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[Ronin]

POING!!!

[a_Turk]

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[The KG9 Kid]

"Howard Eisenstat, an instructor at Koc University in Istanbul, describes Turkey's anxiety this way: 'If you want us to democratize by giving rights to people who aren't truly democratic, what is the guarantee that these people are going to play by the rules?'..."

Well, sir... I was going to suggest adopting a Bill of Rights in the American fashion, but look how that ended up here in the 'States.

Better not use America as your example. Find your own way.

Good luck Turks.

[Arkinsaw]

Please add me to your ping list. Thanks.

[Straight Vermonter]

What? No Page 3 girls?

[Shermy]

Holy smokes Turkman! I went to the Milliyet link, on the right hand side is a piece mentioning Pink Floyd. I clicked it, then clicked it again on the next page, and I got a story with pics of the group and, what I believe, a review of the new compilation album "Echoes." Very cool, especially for a newspaper, or any site. Is Pink Floyd popular in Turkey?

BTW, here's an FR thread with critiques about the selection of the cuts for "Echoes."

New Pink Floyd release....Echoes of what?

[TopQuark]

an aging Turkish Model How old is a model that is not "aging?" Fifteen?

There must an ancient secret to why women in Turkey look so well. Winds from the Sea of Marmara?

[Fiddlstix]

Thanks for the Ping

[wimpycat]

I don't forget that the Turks were part of the international coalition that fought in the Korean War (on our side) I think that's what got them into NATO. They were very forceful in westernizing their society. Ataturk outlawed the fez and outlawed the Arabic alphabet and introduced the Roman alphabet, whether the Turks liked it or wanted it or not. His efforts have largely paid off, I think.

The Turks are pretty cool.

[a_Turk]

Add me to your ping list.

Done!

[oldvike]

Hey, were you banned for a few days? I ask this because I tried to ping you on an article about Greece and I was told that there was "no current freeper by that name".

[a_Turk]

Is Pink Floyd popular in Turkey?

Quite. It used to be such a chore to get their stuff back in the 70s when nothing was imported..

[a_Turk]

Hey, were you banned for a few days?

Sure was! Broke down and told someone to go meet Kevorkian. Pissed off the Admin Moderator. Learned my lesson. From now on, the more I hate someone, the more I'll compliment them. I missed you guys terribly (and that I mean literally).

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Welcome back, one must always show restrain here!

Good article!

[a_Turk]

Welcome back

Good to be back!

one must always show restrain here!

Gets pretty hard sometimes, but I ought to act my age :-)

[TomSmedley]

biz bize bizirim!

(Did I spell that right?)

fakat ya tutarsa!