Arafat: I'm willing to sacrifice 70 to die to kill one Israeli

Independent Media Review & Analysis ^ | Date: 18 December 2001 | Aaron Lerner

[the_second_moon]

Israel Radio West Bank correspondent Avi Yissakharov reported this evening that Yasser Arafat declared in a fiery speech in Ramallah today that "all Palestinians are Muhammad al-Dura", that all Palestinians are martyrs. 12-year-old Muhammad al-Dura was killed in the Gaza Strip last year while his father tried to protect him from crossfire. Arafat called for all to join in the struggle to stop what he termed the Israeli program to Judaize Jerusalem. The crowd roared back to Arafat "millions of martyrs are already marching to Jerusalem." Israel Television Channel Two reported this evening that Arafat also told the crowd that "I am willing to sacrifice 70 martyrs to kill one Israeli" and called for a continuation of the struggle against Israel.

[BenF]

If the Admin Moderator has a problem with this one then there needs to be an explanation.

I can see you are making up your own set of rules. Keep it up. Sooner or later you will be banned. With your "blame the Jews" attitude, you won't be missed.

[tet68]

You only have to convince the Palestinians.

How is the pig?

[mathurine]

Let's see? If Arafat is willing to create 70 martyrs per Israeli, that is going to create quite a run on the market for islamic virgins-- maybe 350 million of them are going to be needed, presumably male and female. Investors take note, if you believe Arafat, put your money in islamic virgin futures and you will become wealthy in due time. Come to think of it, maybe that's where Arafat has his money invested.

[harrowup]

I can see you are making up your own set of rules. Keep it up. Sooner or later you will be banned. With your "blame the Jews" attitude, you won't be missed.

What are you talking about? My earlier reply to you and your irresponsible tirade has vanished and I want to make certain you get the message that I believe you are over the top and incorrect. If you are threatening me then you'd better give me a reason why I should believe your ignorance and bellicosity can cost me posting privileges.

The settlements are illegal. The Palestinians are not going to stop until Israel gives them up and shares Jerusalem.

The accords make that perfectly clear. Sharon was ill-advised to make a scene and the world need not be held hostage. Could the Palestinians stop the bloodshed? No. The anger and resentment is too deep and the propoganda war was won many years ago. Barak recognized that. Peres recognizes that.

[harrowup]

I've seen the article before. Sequence is everything and the fact that the allies reoccupied Paris did not require them to annex what was already Parisian.

The occupied territories and East Jerusalem must be returned. Would it have been better to have made Israel a little bigger after the War? Sure, but we didn't and depending on whose map you want to put your finger it is either bigger or smaller than the biblical period.

The simple fact is that the Palestinians will never stop until they get the land back and get to settle in Jerusalem...they can be told to make their capitol elswhere...a yoke Israel has worn all these years in some circles.

[harrowup]

I would like very much to convince the Palestinians to honor the accords...but since they were forced upon them by a crooked lawyer they don't feel morally obligated. We have everything to gain and nothing to lose by giving up the territories and part of Jerusalem. The settlers can resettle in other areas just as inhospitable to farming as where they are currently. Irrigation is not political and cares not as long as some one can pay for it...and it would be worth the price. The pig is fine.

[harrowup]

Let me restate: POSSESSION is 90% of the law!

That particular myth actually states that Possession is 9 Points of the law and it is false.

[Alouette]

We have everything to gain and nothing to lose by giving up the territories and part of Jerusalem.

Been there, done that. That was the deal on the table when Barak offered to vacate the settlements and split Jerusalem. Who ran away screaming instead of making a counter-offer?

[dennisw]

Gaza Strip Pallies have highest birthrate on the planet. Go search google...I am telling the truth.

[Texaggie79]

Well you keep bitching and moaning like the 1 or 2 Mexicans that still think that southern "Tejas" is Mexican. Israel has it, and it is theirs to give away or keep.

[harrowup]

Not true...not tried...not been there...done that...That is not how the terms were stated. Israel would hold on to various settlements and positions and have jurisdiction over the access...that is not giving them up.

1. Get out of the occupied territories.
2. Share Jerusalem.
3. No exceptions.
4. No keeping the profitable sites.
5. Stick to the lines that the Count lost his life for.

[djr]

"The occupied territories and East Jerusalem must be returned."

When will you accept the facts that a) your side had all this before 1967 and yet tried to drive the Jews into the sea and b) your side is the one that has attacked America on 9/11?

The sympathies of you and your crowd give conservatism a bad name.

[harrowup]

Israel has it, and it is theirs to give away or keep.

Israel has it.
They need to give it back if they want peace...ever.

Texas isn't the same...there was a little revolution before the Texans joined the Union...and then the Confederacy...before they were hauled back into the Union.

[harrowup]

When will you accept the facts that a) your side had all this before 1967 and yet tried to drive the Jews into the sea and b) your side is the one that has attacked America on 9/11?

My side? I am an American.

The sympathies of you and your crowd give conservatism a bad name.

That may be because I am a liberal and not a conservative. Shimon Peres is needed at the helm. Not Sharon. Facts are facts. Israelis will never have peace until the land is returned.

Do I doubt the Palestinians will live up to their side of the bargain? Of course I do. But it will improve the situation. Would you rather have constant killing or just your run of the mill thuggery?

[Texaggie79]

Texas isn't the same...there was a little revolution before the Texans joined the Union

I'm not talking about Texas and the U.S., I'm talking about Texas and Mexico. Mexico claimed that southern Texas belonged to them. We had a WAR over it. WE won with the help of the U.S. It is ours now by might.

[BenF]

What are you talking about?

I can see that reading comprehension is a problem for you so I'll spell it out for you.

If the Admin Moderator has a problem with this one then there needs to be an explanation.

You are setting up a rule for the Admin Moderator and claiming that there needs to be an explanation. You're wrong, and it's not the first time.

My earlier reply to you and your irresponsible tirade has vanished

I have no idea what this is referring to.

and I want to make certain you get the message that I believe you are over the top and incorrect.

And by your characterizations of my postings as an "irresponsible tirade", I'm supposed to care about what you think? Dream on.

The settlements are illegal.

Prove it. Provide the exact legal basis for this statement.

The Palestinians are not going to stop until Israel gives them up and shares Jerusalem.

There's no evidence that they are going to stop even if Israel gives them everything they claim they want. There is evidence they'll stop once they exterminate the Jews. Consequently, there may only be one way to stop the so-called "Palestinians".

The accords make that perfectly clear.

No, they don't. But, I'll keep an open mind. Provide me with a reference to the accords that make your claim "perfectly clear".

Sharon was ill-advised to make a scene and the world need not be held hostage.

LOL...this makes no sense whatsoever.

Could the Palestinians stop the bloodshed? No. The anger and resentment is too deep and the propoganda war was won many years ago.

Well, then....if they can't stop the bloodshed and control their anger, then why make peace with them. As for propaganda, eventually the Nazi propaganda machine failed as well. The so-called "Palestinians" haven't learned from the defeat of their heroes.

Barak recognized that. Peres recognizes that.

Both leftists who are more than willing to sacrifice untold Jewish lives for their version of "peace". Peres was never elected to office in his life and was resoundingly defeated when he ran for President. Barak is no longer in charge for the same reason.

[StoneColdGOP]

Those who send their children to do their fighting for them are beneath contempt

Then a whole lot of these fellas are going to hell, where they belong.

[djr]

"That may be because I am a liberal and not a conservative."

I guess you got me on that one. So go ahead and give Liberalism a bad name.

"Do I doubt the Palestinians will live up to their side of the bargain? Of course I do. But it will improve the situation. Would you rather have constant killing or just your run of the mill thuggery?"

If you're arguing pragmatism instead of justice & morality, I still claim that Israel would be totally foolish to give up land ahead of a demonstration by Palestinian Arab society that it truly accepts Israel's right to exist.

If you're arguing justice &/or morality, forget it - Palestinian Arab society has forfeited any claim on Israel. Their gripe should be with the Arab countries that put them (and Israel) in this mess.

[StoneColdGOP]

And at the hands of his own people, I am certain.

[BenF]

That may be because I am a liberal

That explains everything. No need to respond. Now I understand your position completely.