Posted on 12/15/2001 11:36:38 AM PST by jackbob
Motion to Separate and Dismiss
Re: ThomasJefferson, Honest Rational Freepers, et al.
Vs.
Roscoe, et al.
Comes now jackbob on a third party motion to dismiss charges against Roscoe for lack of evidence.
The quote of Roscoe: "Oops, too late." can be shown to have been a fair and decent quote, with no intent to lower FR standards or do harm to any potential discussion.
A closer examination of the evidence will show that he posted that reply at 12:48pm (and was most likely meant to be addressed to jackbob). As six minutes earlier there was a posted invitation to him, that will put his reply in proper context.
In reply #983 to the article "Will Libertarians bolt The Stupid Party?" the following invitation was put forth to Roscoe by one jackbob;
I just posted an article on what it is to be a libertarian. I know you'll want to hurry over to crap on it. If you move fast enough, maybe you can be the first reply.
It is clear in this instance (and only this one), that jackbob, and not Roscoe has rightfully earned the full condemnation all good faithed Freepers. For no good Freeper would have ever made such an invitation.
Nonetheless, I did find another interesting article there. Is this American Hypocrisy?
Taxation is low, simple-- and contains a surprise. The Federal government is supported by a head tax paid by the States , and is mostly for military and foreign affairs. This state derives most of it's revenue from real estate taxes. It is a uniform rate set annually, with no property exempted, not even churches, hospitals, or schools-- or roads; the best roads are toll roads. The surprise lies in this: _The_owner_appraises_his_own_ property._ There is a sting in the tail: _Anyone_ can buy property _against_the_owner's_wishes_ at the appraisal the owner placed on it. The owner can hang on only by raising his appraisal _at_once_ to a figure so high that no buyer wants it-- and pay _three_years_back_taxes_ at his _new_ appraisal.
TNOTB
You nailed it!
Bush has given us a Gore presidency just fine all on his own.
I couldn't tell the difference between the two during their debates. Even when the moderator asked them what differentiated the two they just sort of looked at each other and shrugged their shoulders.
I don't see Bush rolling back any of the Clinton/Gore big government programs. No big suprise. He wasn't elected to reduce government. Over the last year I've watched Bush sign huge spending increases into law to continue funding all those wonderful alphabet agencies that send hundreds of billions of dollars down the sewer.
Without taxes, public highways would not exist (markets fail to provide public goods). And only a robber baron would be able to build private roads of any significance, in which case the interests of people who need a road would still not be served.
Libertarian non-taxation. Nice romantic idea --- like Knighthood. Unfortunately, we are well past the Middle Ages.
Let me throw an additional proviso on to the question. If Gore were President, having done the exact same things that President Bush has done, what would everyone be saying now?
Actually its a little more complicated than that. The question is not whether it is a person or not. The question is whether it is an individual person or individual humanbeing. It might also be noted that it does not just end there. This is just the starting point for various libertarian theories on the topic (i.e. some Randian Libertarians assert a necessity to assert ones claim to life, some Christian libertarians reserve rights till after the first breath of life with entry of the spirit into its body, etc, etc, etc.).
My position is that if there is any chance whatsoever that it even might be a life...
My position is that if there is an chance it might suffer pain, then error on the side of not introducing pain.
1 Have but one God: thy knees were sore
2 If bent in prayer to three or four.
3 Adore no images save those
4 The coinage of thy country shows.
5 Take not the Name in vain. Direct
6 Thy swearing unto some effect.
7 Thy hand from Sunday work be held--
8 Work not at all unless compelled.
9 Honor thy parents, and perchance
10 Their wills thy fortunes may advance.
11 Kill not--death liberates thy foe
12 From persecution's constant woe.
13 Kiss not thy neighbor's wife. Of course
14 There's no objection to divorce.
15 To steal were folly, for 'tis plain
16 In cheating there is greater pain.
17 Bear not false witness. Shake your head
18 And say that you have "heard it said."
19 Who stays to covet ne'er will catch
20 An opportunity to snatch.
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