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Aborting Innocent, Defenseless Babies: FATHERS OBJECT !!!
Washington Times ^
| Phillip Gold
Posted on 12/14/2001 4:53:43 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: MHGinTN
Very powerful essay. Thanks for the ping. And yet I can't help but think that perhaps one solution to the problem is for men to keep their zippers zipped before marriage. And more women saying NO to sex before marriage. Hearts and minds must be changed before the abortion laws can be changed. I raised to believe that all sexual activity outside of a marital relationship would always bring heartache and grief. We reap what we sow.
To: BunnySlippers
Bunny: this is an old story. However, it is a very current issue; none the more so.
To: BunnySlippers
Bunny: this is an old story. However, it is a very current issue; none the more so.
To: Dr. Octagon
Before leaving, he wrote his (now former?) girlfriend a check for half the price of the procedure. He said it made him nauseous. If he was feeling nauseous, maybe he should have considered not paying for half the cost of the abortion. He hardly sounds like an innocent to me.
To: Utah Girl
But two wrongs...
To: Hodar;Dr.Octagon;The Right Stuff
Men should be able to legally opt out of all responsibilities of parenthood if they do it before the birth of the child. There should be legislation enacted to make that the law of the land.
To: MHGinTN
Thanks for the ping, Marvin.
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posted on
12/14/2001 5:48:33 PM PST
by
JMJ333
To: Dr. Octagon
Bunny: this is an old story. However, it is a very current issue; none the more so. No link? Are you saying it was at one time from the Washington Times? About when?
To: independentmind
Echo that. When more men feel they have the right to stop it, more men will effort to do so.
Even more importantly, though, are the men who do want to stop it, and are legally barred from doing so...
To: Dr. Octagon
Two wrongs do not make a right. I made up my mind long ago that if I found myself pregnant outside of wedlock and marriage was not possible, I'd give the baby up for adoption. There is noooo way I'd ever abort. That is compounding the problem.
To: BunnySlippers
1999? Yes, Washington Times.
To: MHGinTN
BTTT
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posted on
12/14/2001 5:53:08 PM PST
by
ChaseR
To: Texas Gal
Interesting. The "Choice For Men" argument. But the right to be a father matters more, to be legally empowered to prevent the murder of your own daughters and sons in that period when they cannot speak for their own right-to-life: between conception and birth...
To: Dr. Octagon
Sorry, I was going to say one more thing. I do think that the adoption option should be more visibly out there. I'm Mormon, and the church is working very hard through LDS Social Services to promote adoption for those girls/women who find themselves pregnant outside of marriage. They have some excellent presentations about adoption, how abortion should never be the solution. And I've noticed that public service ads are popping up here locally. A young girl is shown graduating from high school. She is thinking about her child, and at the end takes off her cap, and there is a picture of her baby taped to the inside of the hat. We need to teach young men and women that if they find themselves in this position to first: get married if at all possible. If not, think of the baby. Give that child a chance to live in a loving home with two parents.
To: Dr. Octagon
I hate whining parties. I've played sperm roulette myself and not lost. Looking back I wouldn't do it again. Whining about losing doesn't help. Face it, abstinence would've been a better choice, or get married younger; honestly look for the right woman instead of following the little man in your pants around to whatever Lewinsky was gonna Bobbitt ya...
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posted on
12/14/2001 5:53:59 PM PST
by
WriteOn
To: BunnySlippers
8-23-99
To: Dr. Octagon
Let's see. He wants the baby, but pays for half of the "procedure". Spare me, please.
I think I'm going to throw up.
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posted on
12/14/2001 5:56:32 PM PST
by
joathome
To: FF578
Presidents cannot outlaw anything. That is up to congress. You have very little knowledge of American government if you think the President can outlaw anything. She's been told this countless times.
I think Tabitha is more anti-Bush than she's anti-abortion.
To: joathome
The point lies entirely elsewhere...
To: Dr. Octagon
Ironically, it is the pro-abort men who don't care. Pro-life men do care...and who gets better press?The pro-abortionists depend on implicating other people in their crimes. It's the mechanism they use...................it's what drives the incessant propagandizing in the schools, the workplace, everywhere..........
They know what they do is evil........and the more people they can drag into their web and silence through shame, the better off they think they are in their own minds.
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