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Aborting Innocent, Defenseless Babies: FATHERS OBJECT !!!
Washington Times ^ | Phillip Gold

Posted on 12/14/2001 4:53:43 PM PST by Dr. Octagon

As I write these words, a friend of mine is out on the highway, counting down the hours to the death of his unborn child. Before leaving, he wrote his (now former?) girlfriend a check for half the price of the procedure. He said it made him nauseous.

Long years ago, having nowhere to drive (or perhaps the car was in the shop), I did my own countdown in an Eames chair with a bottle of scotch. I do not recall writing a check, or offering, or being asked. The nausea occasionally returns.

My friend is a young man, the kind who almost makes you believe the X in GenX can also stand for excellence. Intelligent, well-educated, thoughtful, college football player/philosophy major, with a limitless future in a field so high-tech I can't begin to understand what he's talking about.

I understood well enough, however, when he told me about his on-again, off-again girlfriend, brilliant and beautiful and volatile in the harsh, addictive way that brilliant, beautiful young women often are.

She had gotten pregnant on a night when off changed, somewhat unexpectedly, back to on. He does not doubt that he loves her, or she him.

I asked him if this was the first time he had faced this kind of situation. He answered, yes. Then welcome to reality. Before it's over, you're going to learn a lot about who and what you are.

We talked. Baby Boomer wisdom available here. Been there, done that, no charge. Of course, I didn't tell him anything that a few million other guys couldn't have. Hannah Arendt, the great political philosopher, once wondered how many killers she and the rest of us passed on the street every day, the men who had fought our three mid-century wars, walking by with their horrors and their nausea inside.

Perhaps, today, the same question might be asked in re the millions of fathers of the trashed-before-birth.

My young friend said he wanted the baby, and he was willing to marry. But there were problems between them, numerous and real. I told him, yes, but there are three of you now. Whatever happens . . . forever, three. I told him to spend time with her, talk with her, hold her lots, listen to what she said and what she didn't say.

I suggested that, if they could get to it, they might play a game. Pretend the decision to keep the child has been made. Start planning your futures, married or not. The normal stuff that folks with children face, and how to balance it all.

They never quite got there. Women come equipped these days with a slick and deadly defensive vocabulary, carefully formatted to avoid certain kinds of issues. Where do they get it from, the words? From a few thousand talk shows and magazines, of course. From the psychobabblers and the feminista, from the government and the universities, from the ads and the pulpits, and from every other branch and unit of a big-bucks industry dedicated to telling them what to think and feel and do and how to justify whatever needs to be justified at the moment and, if they're lucky, for all the years and ghosts to follow.

Anger also works. I saw my friend the day before he left (a necessary and legitimate trip). I asked him if he had done everything he could to persuade her not to opt for the procedure. He said he had. Then I asked him about the little man standing off in one dim corner of his mind, the little guy watching with his arms folded and a hideous smirk on his face.

The little guy with the little voice that said, "You're off the hook." My young friend wiped his eyes and I saw no reason to mention that, for reasons now obscure, I gave my own little guy the name of Buster.

And Buster doth make cowards of us all.

You told me everything that would happen, my young friend said before he took off. Sure did, right up to and including, "Whatever your feelings, can a man of honor go back to a woman who killed his child?"

Another friend, a woman my age, likes to point out that in the years before the procedure became legal-on-demand, the procedure's advocates argued far more than Woman's Body, Woman's Right.

The procedure, plus all the dandy new contraceptives, would guarantee that every child would be a wanted child. Illegitimacy would all but vanish. Divorce, child and spousal abuse, single parenthood, poverty ditto, more or less. We could contracept and procedure our way to paradise.

Didn't quite happen that way. Anybody willing to be honest about why?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: abortionlist; catholiclist; christianlist; fatherhood; michaeldobbs
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To: Dr. Octagon
And fathers should have the legal right to prevent the murder of the babies they father.

Independent of the laws of men, fathers have a moral obligation to wreak vengeance on the killers of their children, even when the killer is the mother herself.

21 posted on 12/14/2001 5:29:22 PM PST by SlickWillard
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To: OldFriend
"But afterwards only a bitter conscience is left to you, sharp as a double edged sword. She leads you down the path to death and hell.For she does not know the path to life. She staggers down a crooked trail,and doesn't even realize where it leads."

Proverbs 5:4-6

22 posted on 12/14/2001 5:29:24 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: ambrose
Or will we keep our zippers closed?

It takes two...

23 posted on 12/14/2001 5:30:05 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Tabitha Soren
Presidents cannot outlaw anything. That is up to congress. You have very little knowledge of American government if you think the President can outlaw anything.

Congress makes the laws, we need to get good pro-lifers into congress, the House is probably has 216-218 pro-life members. The Senate probably only has 40-45 Pro-Lifers. All the Senate Demonrats plus the RINO's Specter, Chaffee, Snow, and Collins are all Pro-Aborts.

We need to retake the Senate before we can do anything. Then it will be up to Bush to appoint Pro-Lifers to the Supreme Court when RINO Pro-Abort Femi-Nazi O'Conner leaves. Stephens another Pro-Abort also has hinted at leaving. Two Pro-Lifers to Replace 2 Pro-Aborts will give the Votes necessary to Overturn Roe V Wade.

As it stands right now. Renquist, Thomas and Scalia would vote to overturn. Kennedy is an iffy vote, and might side with the pro-aborts. Stephens, Ginsburg, Souter, Breyer and O'Conner would all vote to keep Roe V Wade.

The battle lines are all drawn, now what are you going to do about it?

Let me guess, throw away your vote in the 2002 elections to either a Constitution or Reform Candidate and allow the Demonrats to keep the Senate and take the House?

24 posted on 12/14/2001 5:30:41 PM PST by FF578
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To: SlickWillard
Men have the right, duty, and God-granted obligation to save their own babies...
25 posted on 12/14/2001 5:31:28 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: FF578;*Abortion_list;*pro_life
Oh Baby
26 posted on 12/14/2001 5:32:15 PM PST by Khepera
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To: SlickWillard
Fathers have a moral obligation...
27 posted on 12/14/2001 5:32:46 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Dr. Octagon
Or will we keep our zippers closed?

It takes two...

And if only one showed some maturity and self-control. . .

28 posted on 12/14/2001 5:36:07 PM PST by dpa5923
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To: dpa5923
Either one.
29 posted on 12/14/2001 5:37:27 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Dr. Octagon; Angelique; tame; Alamo-Girl; backhoe; Hugh Akston; Ragtime Cowgirl; LarryLied...
I use the term 'serial killer' or 'serial killing' when referring to abortionists or abortion. I have concluded that unless we in the pro-baby camp keep the pressure up, to amplify the stigma of the serial killers/serial killing, the out-of-sight out-of-mind strategy of the pro-serial killing femi-facist movement will make abortion common place ... if it isn't already!

I'm gonna use my ping list now, with your permission.

PING))))))

30 posted on 12/14/2001 5:37:34 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Dr. Octagon
You told me everything that would happen, my young friend said before he took off. Sure did, right up to and including, "Whatever your feelings, can a man of honor go back to a woman who killed his child?"

Wow.

31 posted on 12/14/2001 5:38:26 PM PST by butter pecan fan
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To: mdittmar
"But afterwards only a bitter conscience is left to you, sharp as a double edged sword. She leads you down the path to death and hell. For she does not know the path to life. She staggers down a crooked trail,and doesn't even realize where it leads."

Proverbs 5:4-6

32 posted on 12/14/2001 5:39:06 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: butter pecan fan
Powerful stuff. This is the core of manhood.
33 posted on 12/14/2001 5:40:00 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: MHGinTN
PING away!
34 posted on 12/14/2001 5:40:35 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Dr. Octagon
A lot is said about a woman's love for her baby, but I would like to say that a good and caring daddy is equally as beautiful.
35 posted on 12/14/2001 5:43:32 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: Dr. Octagon

Good post! I know of this type of anger and grief firsthand. I think abortion is nothing more than legalized murder.

36 posted on 12/14/2001 5:44:32 PM PST by Colt .45
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To: Dr. Octagon
Can you provide a link? Is this in today's Washington Times?
37 posted on 12/14/2001 5:44:37 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: Tabitha Soren
When will President Bush, who CLAIMS to be PRO-LIFE do the right thing and OUTLAW ABORTION?

Probably never. Last time I checked, presidents didn't have the ability to legislate.

38 posted on 12/14/2001 5:44:55 PM PST by independentmind
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To: Slyfox
"A good and caring daddy is equally as beautiful"
39 posted on 12/14/2001 5:45:05 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: independentmind
Presidents can legislate, albeit by proxy.
40 posted on 12/14/2001 5:45:48 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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