Aborting Innocent, Defenseless Babies: FATHERS OBJECT !!!

Washington Times ^ | Phillip Gold

[Dr. Octagon]

PING

[The Right Stuff]

Whoa. Brutal essay. Right on. Congrats.

[Dr. Octagon]

Would you PING a few dozen folks to it?

[Hodar]

Fathers have no rights whatsoever. Apart from participating in the sex act, from that point on we are at the whim of the female.

We can neither approve, nor prevent an abortion. We can not decide whether we want, or do not want to be a father-figure, we again have no options. We have no voice on whether the child is going to be aborted/ adopted or raised by the female alone, or with state mandated payments (and these decisions may change as time goes by, with no recourse available to the father). If we do NOT want to be a father, our money is taken regardless. We can not decide where the child will live, as the woman is free to move about the world as she see's fit; however we must constantly pay child support for a child we may never see. In Washington, just living with a woman entitles her to child support (even if the child was born before you entered the picture, and is NOT yours). My favorite part is a father who pays child support for 18 years, then finds out that he is not the biological father, has been de-frauded out of tens of thousands of dollars. This is the only legally encouraged form of fraud in the USA. A man may NOT sue the woman for her deception, in fact he must prove himself innocent via DNA tests, to get off the hook. The courts tend to take the woman's word for the father's name, when she states a father's name on the Birh Certificate. The accused father is usually not even informed that his name is on a legal document. Until the laws change, we have no choice but to go along with whatever the female decides.

[Dr. Octagon]

POJ: Thanks for your contribution. Would you PING some folks over? Thanks...

[OldFriend]

Having unprotected sex with a woman who is not your wife has murderous consequences.

[Dr. Octagon]

And, I presume, you find these factors collectively objectionable?

[toenail]

I also recommend "Rachel Weeping." Excellent book.

[Dr. Octagon]

And fathers should have the legal right to prevent the murder of the babies they father. Else, they've killed fatherhood too, and we cannot allow that.

[Dr. Octagon]

What is it about?

[Dr. Octagon]

Until the laws change...

Will you help in getting them changed?

[SpookBrat]

This was heart breaking. Sniff...

[Dr. Octagon]

"We can neither approve, nor prevent an abortion. We can not decide whether we want, or do not want to be a father-figure, we again have no options. We have no voice on whether the child is going to be aborted/ adopted or raised by the female alone, or with state mandated payments (and these decisions may change as time goes by, with no recourse available to the father). If we do NOT want to be a father, our money is taken regardless. We can not decide where the child will live, as the woman is free to move about the world as she see's fit; however we must constantly pay child support for a child we may never see. In Washington, just living with a woman entitles her to child support (even if the child was born before you entered the picture, and is NOT yours). My favorite part is a father who pays child support for 18 years, then finds out that he is not the biological father, has been de-frauded out of tens of thousands of dollars. This is the only legally encouraged form of fraud in the USA. A man may NOT sue the woman for her deception, in fact he must prove himself innocent via DNA tests, to get off the hook. The courts tend to take the woman's word for the father's name, when she states a father's name on the Birh Certificate. The accused father is usually not even informed that his name is on a legal document. Until the laws change, we have no choice but to go along with whatever the female decides."

And will we lie down and embrace slavery?

Or will we fight?

[Marie Antoinette]

A good read, sad subject...

[Dr. Octagon]

Ironically, it is the pro-abort men who don't care. Pro-life men do care...and who gets better press?

[ambrose]

And will we lie down and embrace slavery? Or will we fight?

Or will we keep our zippers closed?

[Dr. Octagon]

It's sad, and as a case in point: under Carhart vs. Stenberg, partial-birth abortion is legal. Partial birth abortion is the murder of a baby by dismemberment.

Millions of good-hearted women object to such, even when they're a thousand miles from the baby in question.

Now picture this being done to your baby!

With the law saying you haven't the right to stop it.

And feminist-society saying you should not care. That you should not exercise every fibre of manhood within you, telling you, "For God's sake, protect your own!"

This is the legacy of feminism on men.