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To: Dr. Octagon
Countries with a presumption of father-custody have very low divorce rates. In the current family court system, fathers are targets, and children are the weapons to be held against them...

in reality, fathers, men in other words , tend to make their children and the mothers of their children the TARGETS... or how many more times do you need to read how an angry man decided he needed to kill his children and their mother just to make a point?

Listen....let's be honest....men are the dominant species...not better....not more valuable...just the dominant gender....and with that comes RESPONSIBILITY.....a large , large portion of today's (yesterday's) evil in the world lies at the feet of men....the wars...the starvation...the enslaveing of people...this is man's doing...

oh how I wish that my gender had the smarts and the pride to not put up with it...to not become appendages to men....but that is our biology....as much as I dislike it....we are the nesters and the nuturers...we are not the ones to set cultural policy...we go along, as we have always done....

so make up all these phony-baloney evil arguements against women ...how WE are to blame...how WE want divorce...it's absurd...

I come from two living parents that have been married for over 50 years, and my hubby of 26 years has parents alive that are also married for over 50 years...we feel like we are anachromisms....

you want to stay married?...try friendship first...companionship....similar values....and it doesn't hurt to come from stock that believes in fidelity and marriage...

105 posted on 12/14/2001 11:55:51 PM PST by cherry
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To: cherry
I say that statistically, women initiate 2/3 of all divorces.

That's a fact, and the reason for it has been addressed at some length on this thread.

Also, the majority of infanticides, per the 1994 Justice Dept report, are commited by women. 55%.

Baby-killer Andrea Yates is being defended by Texas NOW feminists.

The family court system is anti-father.

Your post stereotypes men. Wrongly. Virtue or lack thereof is 100% irrespective of gender.

109 posted on 12/15/2001 12:04:16 AM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: cherry
You are correct about staying happily married . There really IS a formula ! Marry your best friend, have common interests and shared goals. If one has an interest / hobby, the other should at least try to find out about it, and enjoy it with his / her spouse. If that just won't work, then don't condemn / forbide the other's enjoyment of it. Hardships aren't an excuse to bolt ; they , like all other shared experiences make a marriage stronger.

Never get married because everyone else you know is, you list after that person, you lust after the position / mopney of that person, you want to get away from your family / job / present condition .

Know yourself, and know just what you are willing to put up with, and what you can't. Know what you are looking for in a mate, and don't expect life or marriage to be easy / always happy / without problems / unexpected events.

Yeterday's COMMON SENSE , has been almost lost / forgotten by most, today.

Nope, YOU aren't an anacranism at all. LOL There are many of us; but the complainers are the most vocal and the most noticed.

133 posted on 12/15/2001 1:07:19 AM PST by nopardons
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