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***Fierce Al Qaeda Defense Seen as a Sign of Terror Leader's Proximity***
New York Times ^ | Friday, December 14, 2001 | By JOHN KIFNER with ERIC SCHMITT

Posted on 12/13/2001 8:00:15 PM PST by JohnHuang2

December 14, 2001

Fierce Al Qaeda Defense Seen as a Sign of Terror Leader's Proximity

By JOHN KIFNER with ERIC SCHMITT

TORA BORA, Afghanistan, Dec. 13 — American-backed forces believe that they have surrounded Osama bin Laden and the last of his hard- core fighters in a complex of caves between two valleys just south of here, a senior American military official said tonight.

While American officials say they still do not know Mr. bin Laden's exact location and acknowledge that he could still slip out of the country, commanders are increasingly confident that a growing number of American, British and anti-Taliban Afghan ground forces have hemmed in the leader of Al Qaeda.

Troops are focusing on caves and tunnels in an area between the Agam Valley and the Wazir Valley, a forbidding landscape of snow-dusted peaks and ridges that takes in at least several square miles, another senior official said.

The Pentagon's belief that this may be Mr. bin Laden's hiding place is based in part on the fierceness of the Qaeda defense in the area and reported sightings by troops with Hazarat Ali of the Eastern Shura, which took over from the Taliban there.

The whereabouts of the leader of the collapsed Taliban government, Mullah Muhammad Omar, remains a mystery, although military officials were looking at possible sites in Helmand Province, west of Kandahar, the former Taliban stronghold in the south.

The hunt for Mr. bin Laden has drawn increasing numbers of allied commandos to the mountains of eastern Afghanistan, more than 100 in all, including specialized Army and Navy teams, military officials said.

Concerned that Al Qaeda fighters may be fleeing into neighboring Pakistan, the American military has doubled the number of commandos working alongside anti-Taliban Afghan forces to about 50 in the last few days, officials said. American Special Forces, or Green Berets, have been acting as liaison troops with the fighters of the Eastern Shura for several days.

With attempts to negotiate a surrender failing in the last few days, the fighting and the searching in this desolate mountain terrain intensified.

In response to questions, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said today in Washington that the United States had not rejected a proposed surrender agreement for Al Qaeda fighters on Wednesday, but he also said any settlement must be unconditional.

"This is not a drill where we're making deals," he said.

He said he preferred that Al Qaeda fighters give up, to avoid risking American lives and to provide important intelligence information.

"The first choice clearly is surrender," Mr. Rumsfeld said. "It ends it faster. It's less expensive. And we can encourage people to surrender."

"If they surrender, they may come out alive," he continued. "If they don't surrender, they may not. And it's kind of their choice. I, personally, would like to see people surrender. I, personally, would like to see us get our hands on them and be able to interrogate them and find out about the al Qaeda networks all across the globe. These people know things, and I'd like to know those things."

American bombs rained down on the ridges and peaks in Tora Bora throughout Wednesday night and all day today in the heaviest, steadiest barrages yet. One huge bomb on Wednesday night turned the sky magenta, and under a cold, gray sky today, there were steady bursts of smoke between the mountains followed moments later by the boom of the bombs.

Fighting resumed on the ground, marked by mortar and machine-gun fire, as Afghan tribal troops sought to take ground — some of it taken before and lost overnight — from Al Qaeda fighters.

The new commandos include members of the elite counterterrorist units Delta Force and Navy Seals, who are also specially trained to snatch terrorist leaders and conduct hit-and-run raids. On Oct. 20, Delta commandos attacked a house in Kandahar used by Mullah Omar.

Marine snipers, who can drop a target from hundreds of yards away, have also been deployed, military officials said.

Scores of British commandos, from either the Special Air Service or Special Boat Service, as well as Central Intelligence Agency officers, have also infiltrated the region, bringing the number of allied troops fighting with anti-Taliban forces to well over 100, military officials said.

American B-52 and B-1 bombers as well as Navy warplanes continued their bombardment of the cave and tunnel complexes today.

Four to six AC-130 gunships, working in tandem with unmanned Predator drones that relay live video feeds to the gunships, are prowling the border region between Afghanistan and Pakistan, strafing Al Qaeda forces trying to escape, military officials said.

"This is a pitched fight," said Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. "The focus right now is in the Tora Bora area. There are a couple of main valleys there that we're trying to keep people from escaping."

The mission of the American commandos includes calling in airstrikes in two-man teams equipped with laser pointers and acting as advisers to the local fighters.

C.I.A. operatives are here to question prisoners and examine documents, among other tasks. The snipers could be equipped with special rifles firing heavy .50-caliber slugs, which could immobilize or destroy a vehicle.

The commandos have been glimpsed briefly, traveling the dirt roads in large four-wheel-drive vehicles, mostly with blacked-out windows, ducking their faces or wrapping them in the blanket-like shawls that Afghan men drape around their shoulders and heads here.

American officials vetoed an effort by one local commander, Muhammad Zaman, to broker a surrender arrangement, in addition to continuing their bombing during a supposed cease-fire, a senior Afghan official said tonight.

"They asked for surrender conditions, to turn themselves over to the United Nations and only to their own embassies," the governor of Jalalabad, Hajji Kadir, said at a news conference tonight, describing the Qaeda demands.

"On that condition, the Americans are not satisfied," Mr. Kadir said. "The Americans did not agree, and just because of that the fighting is starting again."

In southern Afghanistan, an advance party of American marines moved into the airport at Kandahar, while anti-Taliban forces continued to root out the last pockets of fighters remaining in and around the city.

But the Taliban's leader, Mullah Omar, appeared to have vanished into the mountains north or west of the city. "Omar is missing," Mr. Rumsfeld said. "Where is Omar?"

Mr. Rumsfeld said the United States would soon start offering rewards for information leading to the capture of senior Taliban leaders, including a $10 million bounty on Mullah Omar. This would be in addition to the $25 million in rewards offered for Mr. bin Laden and other top Qaeda leaders.

A senior military officer said the largest rewards would be reserved for a "fairly small" number of Taliban leaders, while a few dozen other lower-level Taliban leaders would yield bounties in the tens of thousands of dollars. The military is working with the Central Intelligence Agency to draw up a most- wanted list, the officer said.



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KEYWORDS: afghanistan; battleofafghanistan; battleoftorabora; talibanlist; torabora
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OBL is in Pakistan! No, he's in Tora Bora!
A Peek at Media Wishful Thinking
by JohnHuang2
December 13, 2001

The presstitutes were swept away by a bulletin report posted on the Christian Science Monitor website yesterday, alleging the world's most wanted man flew the coop more than a week ago into neighboring Pakistan.

Judy Woodruff, staggering and heartsick from weeks of gloomy news out of Afghanistan, bubbled with ecstasy as she recited the dispatch on CNN -- word-for-word. MSNBC was prancing and doing cartwheels over the 'late breaking development.'

Still doubt the media is rooting for the bad guys? The gloating and crowing on display yesterday will have removed it. In the case for media bias, the spectacle qualified as exhibit *A*.

So who was the source for this 'bombshell' -- whom did the Christian Science Monitor cite as their 'star witness' to this earthshaking new twist?

Are you ready for this? A senior ranking al-Qaeda operative! Yep, you heard it right, folks. Abu Jaffar, described in the "report" as a "religious scholar" and "Saudi financier," claims that his boss, with the assistance of Ghilzi tribesmen, hightailed into Pakistan a whopping ten days ago.

He further told the newspaper that "Osama Bin Laden traveled out of Tora Bora two times in this Ramadan holy month," supposedly meeting in Kandahar with Mullah Omar, the Taliban's "Supreme leader," three weeks ago.

Oh, but there's more, you see. According to Jaffar, his boss and he are so chummy, chummy that Osama, as a token of his 'friendship,' dispatched his 19-year-old son Salah Uddin back to Tora Bora under a hailstorm of bombs just "to be with us there."

What a tear-jerker, eh?

Yeah, right.

To illustrate the utter absurdity of this tale, imagine the FBI accepting -- with no corroborating evidence, in a 'on-the-record' newspaper interview -- the word of a *senior* member of La Cosa Nostra crime syndicate ID-ing the new whereabouts of his fugitive boss. Even fingering the co-conspirators who aided his alleged escape!

Talk about grasping at straws.

It never occurs to the Bush-hating press that their 'star witness' might have an ulterior motive for coming out now; That Jaffar may well be feeding them clever BS in a bid to misdirect Bin Laden's pursuers and bring the bombing over Tora Bora to a halt. A two-fer.

Oh, and never mind that their vaunted "source" had another, personal reason to lie: A cluster bomb blew off his foot during the bombing at Tora Bora.

Regarding Bin Laden's mobility, bear in mind the following: 1) the huge bounty on his head, 2) the need to surround himself with his very own praetorian guard to shield him from bounty hunters, 3) Osama Bin Laden is Arab 4) Pakistan is not. Among the Pashtun tribes of northwest Pakistan, a 6'4" Arab national with a $25 million dollar bounty on his head sticks out like a sore thumb.

And, speaking of motives, what prompted the "respected" Christian Science Monitor to risk its "reputation" by publishing this nonsense?

Judging from the timing, I have a sneaking suspicion it might have something to do with Tuesday's ABCNEWS bombshell -- a real one this time. The TV network, quoting American intelligence sources, disclosed that U.S. military personnel intercepted a series of satellite-phone and radio communications among panicked al-Qaeda terrorists in Tora Bora just after a 'Daisy Cutter' bomb was dropped. The calls placed the terrorist mastermind in the immediate vicinity.

The bottom line is this: The press is anguished over the smashing success of this war thus far. They yearn for failure. Their predictions of another Vietnam-style fiasco or debacle have been thoroughly discredited. They crave for something -- anything -- by which to declare this mission a flop. This is why they fantasize Osama Bin Laden skipping into Pakistan.

Memo to Media: Just keep on dreaming.

My two cents..
"JohnHuang2"

Copyright Enrique N. ©2001

Quote of the Day by Always Right


1 posted on 12/13/2001 8:00:15 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Osama will be in hell before Christmas. Americans are going to be celebrating!
2 posted on 12/13/2001 8:10:32 PM PST by Brett66
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To: JohnHuang2
An outstanding post, John, thank you. Three major centers of extreme left remain entrenched in the US -- Hollywood, the Media and Universities. They mourn the passing of their star -- X42. They yearn for the return of Al Gore (complete with his new beard -- Mullah Ali'Gore-ah?). And they feed us guilt, anti-Americanism and socialism/communism disguised as "pity for the downtrodden." TV is terrible -- even their fantasies on politics are grotesque (West Wing = Left Wing, Left Coast, Left Out). The Left cannot face the underlying reality of this war -- Islam is rarely a peaceful religion -- ISLAM, THE RELIGION THAT LOVES TO HATE.
3 posted on 12/13/2001 8:12:22 PM PST by jrlc
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To: jrlc
Thanks.

(Mullah Ali'Gore-ah?)

LOL!

5 posted on 12/13/2001 8:20:22 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Brett66
Osama will be in hell before Christmas. Americans are going to be celebrating!

Amen.

6 posted on 12/13/2001 8:20:56 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JoeEveryman
Bump!
7 posted on 12/13/2001 8:21:22 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JoeEveryman
With that list "Friendly Fire", which isn't, will be a problem.
8 posted on 12/13/2001 8:24:28 PM PST by El Gato
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To: JohnHuang2
The hunt for Mr. bin Laden has drawn increasing numbers of allied commandos to the mountains of eastern Afghanistan, more than 100 in all, including specialized Army and Navy teams, military officials said.

I am so glad they use "Mr" when talking about bin Ladin

9 posted on 12/13/2001 8:25:23 PM PST by woofie
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To: JoeEveryman
Excellent laundry list there, JoeEveryman! It speaks to the value of the target they are taking out - with that much power in such a small area, it must be bin Laden!
10 posted on 12/13/2001 8:32:01 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: JohnHuang2
Excellent Post!
11 posted on 12/13/2001 8:44:09 PM PST by PA Engineer
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To: PA Engineer
Many thanks.
12 posted on 12/13/2001 8:45:59 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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You are correct sir....(Great read!)
14 posted on 12/13/2001 8:57:19 PM PST by Bob J
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To: JoeEveryman
Kind of like the end to most James Bond movies. Just as long as Osama does not escape like some of the Bond villains for the next episode:

"Return to Somalia", "Saddam's Last Stand", "Strike on Sudan", "Yuletide in Yemen"

"The Indonesian Incident", "Bombs over Beirut",

"K is for Kalishnikovs, Kashmir, and KILL", "Bedtime for Bosnia", "Terror in Tehran"

"The Philippine Factor", "West Bank Warriors", "Getting Serious in Syria", "Lybia is for Losers", "Gaza - Gone-za", "Problems in Pakistan"

Ian Flemming would have had loads to work with in today's world!

15 posted on 12/13/2001 9:01:13 PM PST by JDGreen123
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To: JoeEveryman
LOL!!! Hugs!
16 posted on 12/13/2001 9:02:05 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Bob J
Thanks, friend.
17 posted on 12/13/2001 9:02:10 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JDGreen123
LOL
18 posted on 12/13/2001 9:03:10 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2; harpseal; Squantos
SAS, SBS, CIA, Delta, SEALs, Marine Recon Snipers.... pretty good team in there.
19 posted on 12/13/2001 9:09:34 PM PST by Travis McGee
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