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Russia backs U.S. gun-control advocates
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | By Toby Westerman

Posted on 12/13/2001 9:48:59 AM PST by expose

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To: SamAdams76
I find it hard to believe that the government of Russia would have any concern over Americans exercising their constitutional rights. I know this was on the "Voice of Russia" broadcast, but it doesn't necessarily mean that this is the official position of the Russian government. More likely, it was an opinion piece from some foolish liberal college student. Yeah, the Russians have them too.

Good point.

Besides, I find the term 'gun control' a little laughable from the nation that created the widest proliferation of small arms in the world.

21 posted on 12/13/2001 10:06:46 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: expose
"Moscow added that "the spread of small arms causes concern in many countries," and referred to a recent conference in the Russian capital linking "global instability with the spread of small arms."" (WorldNetDaily)

Evidently Russia's elites haven't noticed it - but the weapon of choice among terrorists is the Russian-made AK-47, and thus is something that they, not Washington, chose to flood the world with.

Look at any photo or video of bin Laden - and see what kind of rifle stands next to him! Or look at the abundant use of the Kalashnikov in Lebanon's civil war.

Scandals of antigun politicians and activists

22 posted on 12/13/2001 10:07:00 AM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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To: Lazamataz
Despite the strictest gun control in the world, when I was in Russia I was offered a Makarov pistol for $50.00 and a full-auto AK-74 for $100.00. RPG-7's were also available for a little more.

Memo to my secretary: "Book me on that next flight to Moscow - pronto!" ;-)

23 posted on 12/13/2001 10:07:07 AM PST by Hail Caesar
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To: Howlin
"Gun control is dead as an issue in this country since 9-11"

I think they are just resting. They will be back.

Right now they are more interested in securing more power for the Government over the traditional freedoms of the people. Once that is accomplished there will be a natural clash between those who want to completely control the people and those who have guns and don't want to be controlled.

Don't fool yourself, it's just a matter of time.

24 posted on 12/13/2001 10:07:16 AM PST by tberry
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To: expose
Strange, I was looking for Putin's signature on the United States Constitution, and wouldn't you know it, it was nowhere to be found!

Stupid socialists. Go away now little lefities, your incompetence in running your own country is showing.

25 posted on 12/13/2001 10:07:37 AM PST by Lumberjack
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To: expose
What a suprise.
26 posted on 12/13/2001 10:07:59 AM PST by mconder
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To: expose
"Due to substantial U.S. pressure, the conference refrained from issuing a global call for "regulation on the ownership of small arms.""

Thank God for the adults in the White House who understand the 2nd Amendment!!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

The Right Of The People To Keep And Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed !!

An Armed Citizen, Is A Safe Citizen !!

No Guns, No Rights !!

Molon Labe !!

27 posted on 12/13/2001 10:08:26 AM PST by blackie
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To: Howlin
I think gun control experienced a miraculous revival last week:

S 890 Gun Show Loophole Closing and Gun Law Enforcement Act of 2001 (Introduced in the Senate)
HR 2377 Gun Show Loophole Closing and Gun Law Enforcement Act of 2001 (Introduced in the House)
S 1788 Use NICS in Terrorist Investigations Act (Introduced in the Senate)
HR 2778 Gun Sale Anti-Fraud and Privacy Protection Act (Introduced in the House)
S 1253 Gun Sale Anti-Fraud and Privacy Protection Act (Introduced in the Senate)

Please go to Thomas and put "NICS" in the search. It got these, and one I have to re-read, it looks like a good one:

S 906 Instant Check Gun Tax Repeal and Gun Owner Privacy Act of 2001 (Introduced in the Senate)

Another discussion on S1788

28 posted on 12/13/2001 10:08:27 AM PST by m1911
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To: Jefferson Adams
"when I was in Russia I was offered a Makarov pistol for $50.00 and a full-auto AK-74 for $100.00."

WAAAAAHHH!!! Not fair!!! I wanna select-fire AK-74 for $100.00!!!

Go to Russia. If you have even a rudimentary control of the language, strike up a conversation with nearly any member of the military. DO NOT approach the Militsia with this attempt -- go to regular army. Within about 20 minutes they will make you an offer.

Getting it is easy. Getting it HERE is hard. :o)

29 posted on 12/13/2001 10:09:00 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: *bang_list
Bang
30 posted on 12/13/2001 10:09:10 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: Lazamataz
Aye, there's the rub. Bummer. A Russian-made AK-74 would be a delight to own. But alas...
31 posted on 12/13/2001 10:10:52 AM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: Hail Caesar
Memo to my secretary: "Book me on that next flight to Moscow - pronto!" ;-)

Stay out of the big cities. Well, St. Pete is okay. DON'T BOTHER WITH MOSCOW... the place is crawling with cops.

Try Novgorod.

32 posted on 12/13/2001 10:11:05 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: nevergore
He stated that in Belarus and Russia no-one can own a weapon even for hunting (of course that exludes the political elite).

Except of course that with enough cash you can buy ANYthing over there.

33 posted on 12/13/2001 10:13:20 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: tberry
--you said it--and the time will be as soon as our Congressional geniuses reconvene in January--
34 posted on 12/13/2001 10:13:53 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: SamAdams76
>>>>>I find it hard to believe that the government of Russia would have any concern over Americans exercising their constitutional rights. I know this was on the "Voice of Russia" broadcast, but it doesn't necessarily mean that this is the official position of the Russian government. More likely, it was an opinion piece from some foolish liberal college student. Yeah, the Russians have them too.

I agree. The article keeps referring to "Moscow." Moscow this, Moscow that. Who is Moscow? Who is the article quoting? One of the vaguest pieces of journalism ever. At least when they get to the domestic gun grabbers they can find real names.

patent

35 posted on 12/13/2001 10:15:18 AM PST by patent
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To: Lazamataz
BTW, didn't President Ronald Reagan almost single-handedly destroy the U.S.S.R by destroying their economy? Next time you head to Russia I want an AK-47 brought back - I mean they are legal there right?

"The blame for increased gun sales, according to Moscow and anti-gun activists, lies with gun manufacturers."
So much for their understanding of simple economic principles. Increased sales are due to increased demand (especially from all the Dims!)

36 posted on 12/13/2001 10:17:07 AM PST by 4CJ
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To: Operation Infinite Jumble
"For about five to ten years until the erosion begins again"

It's already begun. In fact I'm not sure it ever quit.

S. 1788 - Schumer's FBI access to NICS records

38 posted on 12/13/2001 10:18:56 AM PST by tberry
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To: Lazamataz
Thanks. ;-)
39 posted on 12/13/2001 10:19:57 AM PST by Hail Caesar
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To: Lazamataz
Nearly 40% of small arms used by 3rd world armies, insurgents, and terrorists were made in Russia or the former Soviet Union. Any jackass can see that by watching the news every evening. Clean your own house before accusing us Putin!
40 posted on 12/13/2001 10:20:27 AM PST by sean327
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