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But Bush opposes abortion, and supports the traditional family, and he still doesn't get your vote. Than being the case, why should he every do anything you want him to, unless of course, if feels that way himself. You will object to my characterization of his position, but those are the facts. You are letting your disagreement about tactics, something you know little about, obscure that fact that your goals are his goals.

Hey LCS, you should know me better than that! I voted for Bush in the 2000 general, and will most likely again in 2004. Perhaps I was a little unclear. See post 208 for clarification.

I really can't blame other Christians for staying home.

I see that I got confused about your position, which seems close to mine (I was a Keyes man in the primaries), but I disagree with the italicized statement. The people referred to either are acting out of political inexperience, or in full knowledge of what they are doing. If out of inexperience, they should try to find out the way the world works. If they have full knowledge of the consequences of their acts, then I certainly blame them.

By the way, are you any particular Antoninus, such as Marcus Antoninus or his brother. Or perhaps the fictional Antoninus from Spartacus? As you can imagine I'm interested in characters from Roman history or historical fiction.