U.S. RELEASES VIDEOTAPE OF OSAMA BIN LADEN **Full Text**

US Department of Defense ^ | 12-13-01

[Oldeconomybuyer]

The U. S. government released today a copy of a videotape of Osama bin Laden obtained by U.S. forces in Jalalabad, Afghanistan in late November.

The video was filmed by unknown persons.

"There was no doubt of bin Laden's responsibility for the September 11 attacks before the tape was discovered," said Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld.

The release of the tape was made after balancing the concerns about any additional pain that could be caused by its release against the value of having the world fully appreciate what we are up against in the war against terrorism.

The tape was released with an English translation and English subtitling, prepared independently by George Michael, translator, Diplomatic Language Services; and Dr. Kassem M. Wahba, Arabic language program coordinator, School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University. They collaborated on their translation and compared it with translations done by the U.S. government for consistency. There were no inconsistencies in the translations.

The English translation is on the Web at http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Dec2001/d20011213ubl.pdf

[Ridin' Shotgun]

I am no further behind the ID theft crisis than you. The question remains: who stole those particular identities and who they really were? If so-and-so steals my identity, should I be held accountable for his actions while breaking the law under my name?

... can you see where this is going? Great stuff if you want a UPC code stamped on your forehead so no one can steal your identity. But what the heck, you've apparently already been bought and sold (with consent).

[Howlin]

Sorry, kiddo. You're on the wrong side of this one.

[Loopy]

Remember my screenname and don't reply to me again. I don't like you and I don't care to converse with you. I hope I have been clear now.

[Howlin]

we need some leadership

WE have some leadership. You are the one lost in the wilderness.

by the way bush needs to come clean on his executive order he signed back in june ordering american troops to help rescue albanian terrorists!

Care to provide a source for that?

[Ridin' Shotgun]

.... You're on the wrong side of this one.

Thank you for your opinion. I wish you could be right.

[Howlin]

bush has until 2004 to get the job done there likewise or he will not get my support!

I'd prefer you found somebody else to vote for anyway. We like realistic intelligent people on our side, not people who spout off about stuff that isn't true. Or ones that give ultimatums to the POTUS.

[Howlin]

I am right.

[Alissa]

Bump to read later

[Ridin' Shotgun]

Or ones that give ultimatums to the POTUS

Sheesh, I'm shocked. I thought that was what 'government by the people' was all about. Me and my old timey values. Guess its time to grow up and learn how to be a sheeple.

[jackbill]

So the hijackers may not have known the complete plan, but it seems clear that they knew they were going to die.

I agree. "martyrdom operation" says it all. I think that Big Media and some of the Congressmen have misread this one - Big Time. I've read it a dozen times and I come to the same conclusion as you.

[RightWhale]

(Someone in the crowd asks UBL to tell the Shaykh about the dream of (( Abu-Da'ud)). UBL: We were at a camp of one of the brother's guards in Qandahar. This brother belonged to the majority of the group. He came close and told me that he saw, in a dream, a tall building in America, and in the same dream he saw Mukhtar teaching them how to play karate. At that point, I was worried that maybe the secret would be revealed if everyone starts seeing it in their dream. So I closed the subject.

Are these people eating mushrooms?

[Howlin]

It's about government "by the people," not "by one person with an obvious agenda."

[nmh]

"I heard someone on Islamic radio who owns a school in America say: "We don't have time to keep up with the demands of those who are asking about Islamic books to learn about Islam." This event made people think (about true Islam) which benefited Islam greatly. "

So puffed up, they can't see straight. People purchased books because they couldn't believe a "relgion" could be so EVIL. They tried to understand how a human being could be such a monster. It still is hard to believe that Islam is such an evil supporter; but true.

May allah and ALL hid followers rot in hell together with other "virgins" in hell already. This is an EVIL "religion."

Bin laden knew all about it ... the two towers and D.C.. In fact, he was even more pleased at bringing the two towers down. He though it would just destroy the floors above the plane impact. Again, may they rot in hell asap.

[Ridin' Shotgun]

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush invoked executive privilege for the first time Thursday to keep Congress from seeing documents of prosecutors' decision-making in cases ranging from a decades-old Boston murder to the Clinton-era fund-raising probe. (emphasis mine)

But of course I would never suggest that the liberals and the conservatives are in bed together, would I? So all you Clinton bashers who think W's got your best interests in mind ... just keep following that merry yellow brick road, right off the end of the cliff.

[aruanan]

This shaykh is a motor mouth, apparently to compensate for his lack of functional legs.

[rwfromkansas]

Doesn't it feel good to be saying the same thing as the people we are at war with? They also say it is fake. "If you are not with us, you are against us."

[aruanan]

There was a subtitle that read: "In revenge for the children of Al Aqsa', Usama Bin Ladin executes an operation against America."

This is a smoking gun also. The folks doing the Arab news knew.

When the darkness comes upon us and we are bit by a Sharp tooth,

I think Bush should change the name of this phase into "Operation Sharp Tooth"

[aruanan]

an entire religion responsible for it's extremists.

A. That's "its" not "it's"
B. There has been no religion like Islam in which the "normal" people have been so extreme. If you knew anything about the history of Islam, you wouldn't make such comments as those you made above.

[Ridin' Shotgun]

I heard someone on Islamic radio who owns a school in America say: "We don't have time to keep up with the demands of those who are asking about Islamic books to learn about Islam." This event made people think (about true Islam) which benefited Islam greatly. "

Hadn't heard that, but find it totally amusing. If true, it proves but one thing: reverse psychology works! Islam is already the fastest growing religion in the world, so even the thought that people might want to check the source of Islam for their information has got to have a lot of people freaking out. LOL, for a true irony.

[Paradox]

But of course I would never suggest that the liberals and the conservatives are in bed together, would I? So all you Clinton bashers who think W's got your best interests in mind ... just keep following that merry yellow brick road, right off the end of the cliff.

Gee, maybe this belongs in that other thread.. hmmm..