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$350 Billion in Subsidies to US Farmers
Scoop Media ^ | 13-12-01 | Maree Howard

Posted on 12/12/2001 5:28:32 PM PST by Blunderfromdownunder

Trade delegations in Washington admitted defeat yesterday in their efforts to stop the U.S. from handing more than $350 billion in subsidies to its farmers. Maree Howard reports. Hard on the heels of a U.S. move to apply import tariffs on steel, a trade delegation led by Australian Agriculture Minister, Warren Truss, has spent two days trying to convince the U.S. Congress to change its planned Farm Bill.

Under the Bill, which goes before the U.S. Senate today, U.S. farmers will be paid to produce goods no matter the world price or demand.

Global dairy, citrus and sugar farmers will face the biggest threat from government-assisted U.S. farmers, although wheat and other broadacre crops will also face trouble.

Mr Truss said the decision of Congress to go ahead with the Farm Bill was bad for both Australian and world trade.

He said U.S. farmers were becoming less innovative and less prepared to adapt to world demand.

"We are especially concerned at the clear intent of the farm lobby to seek to entrench a mentality of farm subsidies in the USA," he said

Mr Truss says another problem was that the Bill undermined a new round of world trade talks.

He said while the U.S. had legitimate concerns about subsidies from the European Union, U.S. farmers were now getting more assistance than their European counterparts.
The $350 billion of subsidies in the Farm Bill will also affect New Zealand producers and is planned to stand for 10 years.
Australian Labour Opposition industries spokesman, Kerry O'Brien said " The Prime Minister should have given this matter much higher priority but he failed to do so and Australian (and NZ) farmers are the ones who will have to pay for his inaction."


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All those rural farming areas in the USA tend vote Republican dont they? I guess whats good for the US closed market goose isnt necessarily good for the free market NZ and Australian gander
1 posted on 12/12/2001 5:28:32 PM PST by Blunderfromdownunder
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To: Blunderfromdownunder
Maybe they're counting on Republican's to be big fans of big government welfare programs.
2 posted on 12/12/2001 5:31:18 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: Blunderfromdownunder
,,, ahhhh, subsidies - those were the days!
3 posted on 12/12/2001 5:32:07 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: Blunderfromdownunder
Figure is grossly exaggerated. $350 BILION? That's more than our defense budget.
4 posted on 12/12/2001 5:32:32 PM PST by donozark
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To: Blunderfromdownunder
Grange Leader Calls for More, Not Less Farming
Calls Dairy Compacts Most Innovative Agricultural Innovation of 1996 Farm Bill

Cedar Rapids, IA (November 12, 2001) - Speaking to the 135th annual convention of the National Grange, Kermit W. Richardson, National Master (President), called on Congress to create a new Farm Bill that will "…encourage increased participation in agriculture by the largest number of individuals and families through the broadest possible distribution of agricultural assets possible." Contrary to popular thinking that the United States currently has too many farmers and too much production, Richardson hammered home the point that, "Our nation does not suffer from having too many farmers. Our nation's food security is threatened by having too few farmers!"

Richardson called for legislation that will benefit a broad spectrum of farmers rather than favor the few and to reject legislation that will lead to continued consolidation in American agriculture. He also called for legislation that will allow the current generation of farmers to retire with dignity and to easily pass on farm assets to the next generation without onerous financial burdens.

Technical Assistance vs. Land Retirement

Keeping with his theme of "more, not less farming," Richardson pointed out that 92% of all Federal conservation dollars go to land retirement programs and that nearly every state is woefully under funded in technical assistance programs that "help farmers to produce food and fiber in harmony with the environment." He revealed that the host state, Iowa, had funding to cover only 37% of its technical assistance needs. Richardson strongly pointed out that current House legislation would only exacerbate the shortcomings in technical assistance.

Dairy Compacts Successful

Richardson called the creation of the Northeast Dairy Compact "the most successful agricultural innovation" in the 1996 Farm Bill. Dairy Compacts set prices on fluid milk that assure a fair return to dairy producers. A panel consisting of producers, processors, consumers and state government representatives sets prices. Compacts have no net cost to taxpayers. Richardson noted that retail milk prices in New England have been below the national average since the inception of the Northeast Dairy Compact and that the rate of demise of dairy farms in the Northeast has declined.

Legislation that would have extended and expanded the Northeast Dairy Compact and created a Southern Compact got caught up in disputes over committee jurisdictions in Congress. As a result, the Northeast compact expired on September 30 and new legislation has stalled. Richardson appealed to Congress to resolve the jurisdictional disputes between committees and to pass this legislation that "will pay tremendous dividend to family farmers in the future."

Need for "Check Off" Choice

Noting that U.S. pork producers recently voted to end mandatory assessments for a national research and promotion program, Richardson depicted current "check off" programs as too rigid to meet the needs of today's farmers. He believes that the programs fail to exploit specialized production processes that enable farmers to create value-added products within their commodities. For example, organic producers may want their check off dollars spent on promoting the organic category rather than the entire commodity. He sees a need for more direct input by farmers on how check-off dollars are spent and says that government appointed promotion boards alienate many farmers who have been mandated to make key decisions on what and how they farm under the "Freedom to Farm" concept.

Unrealistic Environmental Goals

Last Spring, the Federal government cut off irrigation to 1,500 farmers in the Northern California/Southern Oregon Klamath Basin in order to preserve endangered sucker fish and salmon. Richardson termed this "the zealous pursuit of unrealistic environmental goals" that is causing severe damage to farms and industries important to our country. "Responsible stewardship recognizes a balance between use and conservation. We will not accept that Americans must sacrifice their prosperity or surrender their constitutional rights in order to preserve our environment," he stated. Richardson told the audience that the Grange has labored for over a decade for amendments to the Environmental Species Act and for fair compensation for those who have been denied use of their land by the Act.

5 posted on 12/12/2001 5:36:58 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: Blunderfromdownunder
Probably the biggest supporter of parasite farmers was Bob "A-hole" Dole from Kansas. Maybe he was trying to get farmers to develop some kind of super wheat which would allow him to get it up. Red Zone Republicans never met a fat farm bill they didn't love - Ron Paul excluded.
6 posted on 12/12/2001 5:40:06 PM PST by StockAyatollah
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And, of course, we get hordes of nitwits on FR frantically writing letters and calling radio talk shows for $500,000 worth of cost-of-living pay raises for Senators, but billions of dollars of subsidies and pork get cranked out every day and they couldn't care less.
7 posted on 12/12/2001 5:42:06 PM PST by John H K
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National Grange Says U.S. Farmers “Surviving on the Charity of Others”

Washington DC (July 12, 2000) – Leroy Watson, National Grange Legislative Director, today told members of the U.S. House of Representatives Agriculture Committee that, like the famous Tennessee Williams character Blanche DuBois in the ic play "Long Day’s Journey Into Night", U. S. Farmers are “surviving on the charity of others” under current federal farm policy. Watson likened the supplemental farm payments provided by Congress and the Administration to charity that alleviates the situation but does not solve the underlying problems.

“We believe that past and current farm policies have contributed to the decline in the quality of life in rural communities,” Watson told the Committee. He claimed that current policies are promoting the consolidation of farm production assets into fewer and fewer hands, and that, today, “we have the fewest number of farmers, either full time or part time, in our nation’s history.” Government intrusion on the rights of farmers to mange and husband their land and prohibitive capitol gains and inheritance taxes have discouraged and prevented new generations from carrying on the family farming tradition. The Grange believes that, unless federal farm policy changes to encourage greater individual and family participation in U.S. agriculture, the number of U.S. farmers will continue to decline until U.S. farm production is in the hands of the very few and the very large.

According to Watson’s testimony, it is not farm policy alone that is affecting rural America. He cited increased rural crime, rural public school consolidations, inadequate health facilities, and lack of high speed Internet and communications access as factors contributing to the decline of rural communities.

The National Grange “Blue Print for Rural America 2000”, in fact, represents National Grange involvement in issues affecting all of rural America. It deals almost equally with farm and non-farm rural issues. The Blueprint reflects the needs and desires of grassroots America. It is modified each year through a resolution system that starts at the Local Grange levels. Resolutions then pass up through county and state Granges and are voted on each Fall at the Grange National Convention where several hundred policy resolutions are processed each year.

In terms of specific farm policy, the 2000 Blueprint includes these recommendations:

The National Grange is the nation's oldest general agricultural organization, founded in 1867. It has grassroots units in 3,600 local communities in 37 states, with nearly 300,000 members. Its activities include and serve farm and non-farm, rural families and communities on a wide variety of economic, educational, legislative and family issues.

8 posted on 12/12/2001 5:42:21 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: donozark
Unless author is referring to cost of farm subsidy programs over a TEN year period, he is full of horse-hockey. Program is approx.$25 ANNUALLY. Less than 40% of US farmers participate and many of those that do are corporate giants and wealthy individuals i.e. Teddy Turner.
9 posted on 12/12/2001 5:56:12 PM PST by donozark
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To: donozark
Presumably that is in NZ dollars, spread over several years.
10 posted on 12/12/2001 5:58:22 PM PST by Blunderfromdownunder
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To: donozark
Forgot to mention, those interested, visit www.heritage.org Complete analysis of bill/program is available there. PDF. Nov.26 article. Rather long...
11 posted on 12/12/2001 6:01:37 PM PST by donozark
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To: Blunderfromdownunder
Perhaps. But author uses US dollar sign ($) and is unclear as to precise term of expenditures, on an annual basis. Also, background of "Scoop Media" is questionable.
12 posted on 12/12/2001 6:06:12 PM PST by donozark
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"The $350 billion of subsidies in the Farm Bill will also affect New Zealand producers and is planned to stand for 10 years."

I think it's $350 billion over the next 10 years

13 posted on 12/12/2001 6:07:06 PM PST by moonman
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Yes. But please see #12. Author is unclear about term of expenditures.Why? Misleading. Most will tend to think of it as $350 per annum. Any of these bills, when spread out over ten years are not realistic. Prices will vary, as they say. Politicians will come and go. Farm belt losing clout. Ten years hence? Far less powerful than today.
14 posted on 12/12/2001 6:13:06 PM PST by donozark
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To: donozark
Point well taken ... thanks :)
15 posted on 12/12/2001 6:16:07 PM PST by moonman
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To: Blunderfromdownunder
Yes, there's no doubt that the Democrats have been successful in hooking a large segment of our society on the government tit. The people in those states still tend to vote Republican, however, because they can find Republicans that will bring the subsidies home and not vote for noxious crap like gay marriage, needle exchange programs, "Piss Christ" public art and gun control.

Proud Socialist, eh? Well, our experiment with socialism gave us the inner-city welfare state. Animal Farm, essentially, as the result of governmental interference and meddling with the family unit. Another flaming success story.

16 posted on 12/12/2001 6:16:29 PM PST by IGOTMINE
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To: Blunderfromdownunder
the subsidies change little from democrat to republican administrations. yesterday there was an article in the nyt on the secretary of agriculture and her critics, veneman. she attempted to argue that the government subsidies should be distributed more equally amongst farmers, but to no avail.

clinton's ag secy chimed in and said he would not touch the subsidy issue because he could make no difference.

the same wealthy farmers with political clout in washington get the bulk of the spoils.

the nyt had a good article on this several months ago, when the government numbers were released by the feds. the article included a usa county map. most of the fat cat farmers were on the great plains, from texas to canada. these guys have several thousands of acres in production each.

17 posted on 12/12/2001 6:17:47 PM PST by ken21
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To: donozark
US dollar sign?? Jeez, talk about cultural imperialism, its a NZ source reporting in NZ dollars; and the article clearly states that the spending is over ten years. As for questioning Scoop.co.nz as a reputable source, its alot more reputable than some of the sources quoted on FR with alarming regularity, ie Drudge, WorldNetDaily and NewsMax.
19 posted on 12/12/2001 6:23:36 PM PST by Blunderfromdownunder
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To: Blunderfromdownunder
A little bird just told me scoop meadia is run by socialists. Any comments?
20 posted on 12/12/2001 6:24:53 PM PST by farmfriend
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