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It took you how many posts to show that you truly hold nothing sacred?

We now know more about you than you probably wanted us to. And don't try the "can't you take a joke" tack. You are relegating the Lord's stepfather on earth, a role for which he was chosen because of his decency, to the role of cuckold and implying that his suggested celibacy added insult to injury.

You make a dirty joke of the Holy Family. This in spite of your more pious earlier posts.

you are wrong..you dont think that people on the street were talking about Mary being in a "family way". You dont think that people were saying ...she's pregnant? yeah right, and it's God's baby? you dont think Joseph was in precarious positon being torn by devotion to his wife, devotion to what he was told by god's angel about his wife being with child, and more or less embarrassed about her being pregnant before they were married let alone having not consumated their marriage. you dont think joseph and mary consumated their marriage after the birth of christ....you dont think joseph and mary had sex ever? he was a man with natural desires and he had a wife , but he's not going to ever have sex with her?

Joseph was a man, Mary was a woman..Neither was devine, both completely 100% human with human wants and desires and needs. Neither of them were holy.Jesus Christ(Yeshua-yes folks he was Jewish)was the only one that was Holy . He also was a man, but he was also God and therefore able to withstand earthly temptations unlike Joseph and unlike Mary. They wre chosen by God to bring forth his son Jesus (Yeshua) into the world because they were found by God to be worthy of doing so, because they were worthy of this does not mean they were worthy of being worshipped or acting as a mediator between Man and God. And I do hold a lot of things sacred and one of them is to try and have an open mind and try to look at things from someone elses perspective while I try to maintain a steadfast faith. However when I read a post like yours, I will spar anytime. You show me one verse in the Holy Bible where it says that we are to worship and or follow anyone but Jesus Christ and I will humbly accept your chastisement!

Mary and Joseph were married, they had sex. Maybe even while she was pregnant with Jesus. Sex, is not a sin, it is as natural as a back rub, or a foot massage. Although putting a human being on a pedestal is, whether they are alive or dead. In the bible, when angels were portrayed as communicating with people, the people invariably fell to their knees. They were commanded to rise up, as they were not to be worshipped. We are commanded to bend a knee to God the father, and his son, no one else. When the Hebrews were caught worshipping the Golden Calf in the wilderness, they proclaimed, "this is just a representation of God to us". That is why people get worked up about this kind of post.