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Saudi prince says kingdom has no need of democracy
AP/Jordan Times ^ | 12/11//01 | Staff

Posted on 12/11/2001 4:30:36 AM PST by veronica

Saudi Arabia has no need for democratic elections because they put unqualified people in power, an influential Saudi prince said Monday.

Prince Sultan Ben Turki, a businessman and nephew of King Fahd, said in an interview with the Associated Press that democracy did not fit the reality of Saudi Arabia, where the king rules and is advised by an appointed body, the shura council.

His comments are part of a quiet debate within the Saudi royal family on the sensitive topic of political reform.

The prince criticised the comments of his cousin, Prince Al Waleed Ben Talal, a billionaire businessman who called for elections in an interview last month with the New York Times.

He said Al Waleed's comments support Western interests and “those who oppose Saudi policies.” He did not elaborate.

The Saudi government holds that it practises an Islamic form of democracy through traditional consultation between ruler and ruled in informal gatherings. The founding Al Saud family dominates the country political structure, holding most of the important national and regional government posts.

“If the (Saudi) people were able to freely elect members of the shura council, they would not successfully choose members with sufficient expertise or experience,” sultan said, adding that in some countries “some candidates attain their seats by buying votes.”

“Saudis, no matter their social class, participate in policymaking through their daily face-to-face meetings with leaders of their communities and through discussions in the shura council,” Sultan said.

In May, King Fahd increased the number of members of the council from 90 to 120. It is the closest institution the kingdom has to a parliament, but its function is strictly advisory.

Sultan said the Saudi people fully support their leaders. From time to time there were Western calls for reform that were taken up by Saudis, but these calls were “ignorant” of the reality, he said.

Saudis understand the benefits of Western science and technology, but “we don't need to make our customs and traditions conform with Western social and behavior systems,” he added.


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1 posted on 12/11/2001 4:30:36 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
The title itself is priceless.
2 posted on 12/11/2001 4:37:29 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: veronica
Prince Sultan Ben Turki,...
He's a 'turkey' allright.
3 posted on 12/11/2001 4:39:09 AM PST by duckman
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To: veronica
BTTT
4 posted on 12/11/2001 4:42:13 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: veronica
" the US has no need for democratic elections because they put unqualified people in power" .. Hitlary
5 posted on 12/11/2001 4:42:31 AM PST by DrJasper
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To: veronica
adding that in some countries “some candidates attain their seats by buying votes.”

huh, i wonder what country he is referring to?

6 posted on 12/11/2001 4:45:19 AM PST by mmmmmmmm....... donuts
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To: veronica
The last thing we would want to see now is a democracy in Saudi Arabia. The people would elect a government that would be hostile to us before it finally imploded due to infighting.

America's foreign policy is geared toward creating or preserving stability. That is more important to us than spreading the cause of freedom or the virtues of democracy.

Accordingly, you will not see America pushing for Saudi democracy anytime soon.

7 posted on 12/11/2001 4:49:49 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
You have to admit that democracy in the United States has put plenty of incompetents in power and that the prince is right on vote buying. This is one of the disadvantages of democracy. When we gave up the concept of a republic and went to one-man one vote in most of our elected positions, we opened the flood-gates for abuse and stupidity.
8 posted on 12/11/2001 5:36:32 AM PST by meenie
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To: veronica
Saudi prince says kingdom has no need of democracy

This will be their undoing.

9 posted on 12/11/2001 5:37:51 AM PST by ChadGore
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To: veronica
I agree democracies putunqualified peoplein power but the Al Sauds are worse than the Clintonistas so they ain't qualified either.
10 posted on 12/11/2001 7:05:06 AM PST by weikel
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To: veronica
“If the (Saudi) people were able to freely elect members of the shura council, they would not successfully choose members with sufficient expertise or experience,” sultan said, adding that in some countries “some candidates attain their seats by buying votes.”

I cant help but think he's hinting that Bush somehow bought votes...am I over analyzing?

11 posted on 12/11/2001 9:31:16 AM PST by smith288
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To: Dog Gone
America's foreign policy is geared toward creating or preserving stability. That is more important to us than spreading the cause of freedom or the virtues of democracy.

There is nothing stable about countries that are governed by tyranny. Conservatives like you tend to make the mistake of assuming that maintaining the status quo of friendly foreign governments preserves "stability" while liberals tend to assume that rule by popular vote will make foreign countries more like us.

What you both forget is that what gives America its strength and prosperity is our traditional (albeit eroding) respect for responsible liberty. You can have majoritarian democracy without responsible liberty (eg. South Africa) and you can have responsible liberty in a monarchy. What the Middle East has traditionally lacked is an ethos which respects responsible liberty, and that is what we should be supporting there, not "stability" or "democracy".

12 posted on 12/11/2001 9:40:35 AM PST by ravinson
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To: veronica
Yes, an autocracy based on a hated crazed medieval cult is much more stable than self rule in democratic form....
14 posted on 12/11/2001 9:48:57 AM PST by TADSLOS
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To: veronica
Feudalism Forever!
15 posted on 12/11/2001 9:51:57 AM PST by RightWhale
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To: smith288
Nah, he just read about $92 per vote in NYC.......
16 posted on 12/11/2001 9:52:25 AM PST by litehaus
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To: beecharmer
Can't have democracy now LOL...that would be just awful. Must keep breeding highjackers and malcontents.
17 posted on 12/11/2001 9:55:20 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
Saudi Arabia has no need for democratic elections because they put unqualified people in power, an influential Saudi prince said Monday.

He must have graduated from Harvard when J. Carter was president...

18 posted on 12/11/2001 9:57:01 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: veronica
You have to love Muslim countries trust of their own people, how damn pathetic!
20 posted on 12/11/2001 9:59:12 AM PST by richardthelionheart
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