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"You assume my attitude toward people in the Sudan." You were the one posting comments about these people. No sympathy, no sadness from you, just pointing out how the Bible supposedly teaches that anyone with enough faith would not experience these things. This is the attitude your words conveyed and you have yet to state otherwise.

When confronted with your own hardness of heart you have repeatedly rejected any criticism of it.

"You still have no example, by name, of any individual saved as a result of a martyrdom." You haven't provided one single scripture to back up your claim, which is that God's perfect will for all Christians never includes martyrdom or prison. If that is not your point, you have had many opportunities to clarify.

I have provided many scriptures. By your criteria, only the book of Acts would be allowed for purpose of example. But even there you are not going to find someone saying, "Hey, I decided to become a Christian because of the martyrdom of Stephen" or "because of the miracles I saw". You just filter out any idea that does not neatly fit into your way of seeing things.

"John did not die a martyr's death. " AGAIN, YOU FAIL TO EVEN READ WHAT I WROTE BEFORE YOU ANSWER IT. I CLEARLY STATED THAT JOHN WAS NOT HISTORICALLY RECORDED AS BEING A MARTYR. That is because there is no verifiable record of his death. When an attempt on his life failed, he was exiled to Patmos, where he received the vision known as "Revelation". According to your doctrine, John's lack of faith landed him there. I suppose he should have been receiving God's Word in some luxury accommodations that he received by "faith". Yeah, just like Christ lived in mansions. Oops, He did not did He?

"I assume they made similar confessions" You made my point, YOU ASSUME a lot of things, then claim that your assumptions are what the Bible must mean.

Quite frankly, I expected at some point you were going to say I had misunderstood your position, or conceded that your position is just what you believe God wants for you and not the case of every Christian. Instead, you have dug a deeper and deeper hole.

This type of fixation on such an indefensible position as yours is indicative of a deeper problem. Since you are so entranced with signs and wonders, you ought to know what a word of knowledge about dishonest business dealings would mean. I have a feeling you know exactly what I am talking about.

Nope. No deep holes here. Just your repeated shouting. But you still can't find any proof. I asked for just one person in the Bible, one example where it said, "'x' died and many came to God" or "following y's death, many praised God and thousands were converted." Nope.

Again, though, we have countless examples of people who were healed, or raised from the dead, followed by massive conversions.

Now, a normal person led by the Spirit might actually think about that for a minute.