Posted on 12/05/2001 4:24:43 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
Edited on 04/22/2004 12:31:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Me either. The question Is : Are the troops to keep people out, or US in?
Canada was my planned escape route...
Hmmm... But that would include the GOP and all those that vote for them, wouldn't it?
That pine cone gets around....my kids were hit by that very same one! :-)
As for Mexico, yeah, that border is still a problem, but do you know how out of place Arabs are down there? The Mexican Federales (federal police) have and will continue to make life difficult for anyone they don't like, and Arabs are up there on the top of their list.
I say more Nat'l Guard at the Canadian border.
Hmmm... But that would include the GOP and all those that vote for them, wouldn't it
Hey Francisco, whazzup?
You're not supposed to notice that, didn't you get the pamphlet last week?
The term of the War Powers act is almost expired, if I'm not mistaken (it was a 90 day authority, wasn't it, before Congress had to make a formal declaration), and still we have no declaration of War. Yet, ask any NeoCon why they are so quiveringly ecstatic to suspend Constitutional liberties, and they will chatter "Cuz we're at war buddy!".
Hmm, strange, I'm still waiting for the declaration.What I'm not waiting for, since the NeoCons are so eager to provide them, are closed borders, warrantless searches, secret tribunals, warrantless wiretaps and warrantless email interception. They also seem to be able to provide Federalized airport workers and a "bailout" of billions of dollars to businesses which were already failing prior to 9/11. Now what was it called, when government supported and propped up businesses, what was that system called again?
But hey, its all ok if GW does it, right? I mean, this doesn't set a precedent now, does it? Nahhh, say it ain't so.
Revenge against the terrorists? You bet! Do it hard, do it fast, and don't give them a kiss to warm up. But do it the right way, stop pretending that GW is some kind of emperor who is under no constraint to follow the Constitution. If we are at war, Congress needs to declare it, period.
"We're concerned, here in the U.S., that a large number of the 19 terrorists, involved in the attacks on 9/11, entered the U.S. from Canada"
This is of course complete and utter nonsense. NONE of the 19 came to the US through Canada. We let them in - we are culpable. Doing the usual "blame Canada" routine is tiresome and takes the focus off the real changes that WE need to make to our visa regulations.
"The Canadian authorities just let more than a dozen 'Al Queda' go, because they didn't have enough room in ther jails for them."
The original story was that the Canadians were unable to detain any more refugees of Arab extraction because of space issues. You'd swear you were a liberal spinmeister the way you have twisted this to fit your own agenda, for now they have gone from Arab refugees to members of Al Queda. I suppose this is evidence that not all of us here have an above average IQ…
During my last visit to Canada, when I stopped at the border, I was asked by the Customs officer my nationality, where I was going, what I was bringing into Canada and how long I intended to stay. My car trunk was searched by two R.C.M.P guys who told me to stay in the car while the search was being conducted.
I was also told that from now, Canada was going to be requiring either a birth certificate or a passport as identification. Driver's licenses were no longer good enough.
When I asked if this also applied to the U.S crossing, I was told 'Probably'.
A few days later, when I drove back to the U.S, the border guard asked me where I lived, and if I was bringing anything back to the U.S. I said that I lived in part of NY state, and that I wasn't bringing anything back.
To which he replied 'Have a nice evening'.
Ashcroft hasn't a clue as to what he's talking about. Nothing's going to change.
Winning back to back majority Conservative governments. $40 million dollars.
Bringing free trade to Canada. $20 million.
Going from 160 seats to 2 because you've managed to annoy everyone in Canada who might have even thought about voting Conservative with the Meech Lake Accord? Priceless.
Do you also expect "business as normal" regarding our "Rights" in the event of foreign bombs raining down upon us and the anarchy to follow? A bit dramatic, I know, but the circumstance at present do call for some extreme measures for the time being.
WE ARE SWARMED UPON BY FANATICAL ISLAMIC MOLES WHO'VE SET UP SHOP HERE ALREADY. Perhaps they are know planning the extermination of YOUR town OR mine next.
What do you wanna do -- have OREGON law "enforcement" handle things for ya?
Oh Stockwell. Those who do not learn the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them.
Our Canadian neighbor is doing THEIR job in contrast to our INS border patrol, who can't be bothered doing their job thoroughly.
"Ashcoft hasn't a clue"(??)
Yeah, why don't we now blame him for the pizza delivery being late while we're at it.
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