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FBI Captures Wagner!!
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Posted on 12/05/2001 10:04:06 AM PST by mn-bush-man

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To: JoeMomma
Sorry, the Supreme Court made it "against the law" to make laws on the subject. So what's this about going to the lawmakers to get a law?

Total nonsense. Waagner may not be right, but then who is in this business.

102 posted on 12/05/2001 11:32:22 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: mn-bush-man
It's amazing that any literate adult would consider this a rational post.
The two exclamation points just emphasize the image of a third grade class.
103 posted on 12/05/2001 11:32:52 AM PST by Publius6961
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Jack Wagner, the soap opera star, singer of "All I Need"? What was he wanted for?

I hope it isn't THE Wagner, he's been dead for a century, but Ride of the ValKilmers is great music when you are off to battle.

104 posted on 12/05/2001 11:33:52 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: SuziQ
Seriously, why were they worried about this guy sending threat letters, and not the folks who sent the REAL things?

SuziQ, you may want to read the wanted poster again. It's the jail escape, the bank robberies (plural), the hijacking of a vehicle...Waagner just took credit for the fake anthrax letters last week. He's been on the FBI's Most Wanted longer than that--and before that, on the U.S. Marshal's Top 15.

Waagner also used the return address of the Secret Service and the FBI on the fake anthrax letters. If you want to, um, hack off a law enforcement agency, use THEIR name as a fake return address.

105 posted on 12/05/2001 11:36:45 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: walden
RE#77

Abortion is legal, yes, Roe v Wade, I understand. But how
do you define murder? If, PBA isn't murder, what is it
when one interrupts the normal birth process to
smash & dismember the baby?

Our country has become quite adept a euphemisms.

1. We pollute the air with profanity & pornography and call it freedom of expression.

2. We have endorsed perversions and call it alternative lifestyles.

3. We have exploited the poor and call it the lottery.

4. We have neglected the needy and call it self preservation.

5. We kill our unborn and call it choice.

6. We shoot abortionists and call it justifiable.

106 posted on 12/05/2001 11:38:09 AM PST by cliff630
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To: Tree of Liberty
The guy looks like a natural-born face-morpher. I'd never think those three faces were even related to each other, let alone the same person.
107 posted on 12/05/2001 11:39:25 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: mn-bush-man
Well, I certainly feel safer now .
108 posted on 12/05/2001 11:40:08 AM PST by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: walden
RE#77

Abortion is legal, yes, Roe v Wade, I understand. But how
do you define murder? If, PBA isn't murder, what is it
when one interrupts the normal birth process to
smash & dismember the baby?

Our country has become quite adept a euphemisms.

1. We pollute the air with profanity & pornography and call it freedom of expression.

2. We have endorsed perversions and call it alternative lifestyles.

3. We have exploited the poor and call it the lottery.

4. We have neglected the needy and call it self preservation.

5. We kill our unborn and call it choice.

6. We shoot abortionists and call it justifiable.

109 posted on 12/05/2001 11:40:23 AM PST by cliff630
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To: mn-bush-man
Well, I certainly feel safer now ''.
110 posted on 12/05/2001 11:40:29 AM PST by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: mn-bush-man
Well, I certainly feel safer now "".
111 posted on 12/05/2001 11:41:16 AM PST by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: mn-bush-man
Well, I certainly feel safer now < /sarcasm >.
112 posted on 12/05/2001 11:41:40 AM PST by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: LurkedLongEnough
He escaped from the Dewitt County Jail in Clinton, Illinois, on February 22, 2001, where he was awaiting sentencing and facing a term of 15 years to life.

Wouldn't you just know that Clinton would be involved in this some way!

113 posted on 12/05/2001 11:43:01 AM PST by F-117A
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To: rodeocowboy
Does killing a doctor that murders babies for a living make the killer any less justified than the baby killer?

The murder of the abortion doctor is murder. It is wrong. No matter how you slice it.

Abortion is legal in this country. If you want the law changed, then lobby to have it changed. If you want to restrict (or prohibit) the use of tax dollars to abortion clinics then lobby for your point of view.

But if the only tactic you have to make your point of view is the taking of a life (the life of the abortion doctor) then you are no different than bin Laden.

If you don't like the procedure, don't have one.

114 posted on 12/05/2001 11:47:08 AM PST by Utopia
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To: JoeMomma
"If you don't like the laws, work to change the hearts and minds of the people who elect our lawmakers. That's the only way for the pro-life cause to succeed."

No it's not. The way to succeed is by making sure that there are no abortionists in business. For that to happen, we simply need to enforce existing laws against fraud, rape, assault, safety violations, distribution of narcotics, and the other things that baby-killers simply have to do by their nature.

Life Dynamics is our best bet.

115 posted on 12/05/2001 11:52:54 AM PST by toenail
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To: Constitution Day
Wagner...Wagner....or is it? Wagon wheel? Who knows? The FBI couldn't find their own butts in a snow storm...LOL
116 posted on 12/05/2001 11:53:24 AM PST by KLT
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To: cliff630
No one has been able to explain to me at what point the embyro becomes life. Exactly at the moment of conception? At one cell before it subdivides? If so, (and many purists believe so) then, what happens to all those unfertilized eggs and sperm that are discarded by us all? Is a woman therefore guilty of manslaughter because the egg she was carrying last month was not fertilized? Why not, after all, it contains half the genetic code for life.

I cannot tell when life begins, but I have known some people who needed the procedure on medical grounds- in their cases the procedure was done within 2 weeks of becoming pregnant. (Any later and the health of the woman would have deteriorated further) -- And for those women, I am glad they were able to receive expert and legal attention.

117 posted on 12/05/2001 11:54:59 AM PST by Utopia
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To: JoeMomma
I agree. The worst thing you can to is make abortionists appear as "victims." And that is all that the reign of terror against these people has accomplished. I mean, in this day and age, you can't do any better than "victim." That is the best thing to be! And the lamestream press will glom on to that "victimhood" while ignoring the real victims. There should only be one group of victims of abortion in the public eye. Our job is to spread that message, because the media won't. (I especially like the billboard truck. That should be national.)
118 posted on 12/05/2001 11:57:04 AM PST by stands2reason
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To: Utopia
When Do Human Beings Begin? "Scientific" Myths and Scientific Facts, by Dianne N. Irving, M.A., Ph.D
119 posted on 12/05/2001 11:57:42 AM PST by toenail
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To: Spiff
"It would only have hurt the Pro-life movement if we had let it hurt the pro-life movement."

That's a terribly naive belief.

"Why didn't Ted Kazynski's (aka. The Unabomber) mail bomb campaign hurt the liberal environmentalist movement? Why didn't it hurt Al Gore?"

Because the media and the other organs of statism will always run interference for one of their own. It's not exactly rocket science.

When leftist Bad Guys commit heinous acts, the media will downplay their politics. Did the press play up the fact that Kazynski's hero was Al Gore, and that he had a well-thumbed copy of Gore's book in his "cabin"? I think it's a fairly safe bet that if Kazynski had claimed to be a conservative, and had a book by Bork or Falwell or some other well-known conservative figure, they would not only have shouted the "connection" from the rooftops, but, his "cabin" would have been described as a "bunker".

It's not exactly like there's anything resembling a level playing field here. Don't go blaming the good guys (i.a., "if we had let it") for the bad guys actions.

120 posted on 12/05/2001 11:58:34 AM PST by Don Joe
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