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New US Terror Alert Linked to Nuke Fear
DEBKAfile ^ | 12/4/2001 | DEBKAFile

Posted on 12/04/2001 1:07:25 PM PST by Smogger

4 December: One factor in the third general terror alert raised in the United States since September 11 relates, according to US media, to intelligence information indicating that the former Saudi terrorist Osama bin Laden has gained possession of a so-called dirty or radiological bomb. The target date referred to in electronic intercepts is mid-December. It has also been suggested that such weapons may have been smuggled into the United States.

On October 12, DEBKA-Net-Weekly reported from its intelligence sources that Bin Laden had almost certainly procured a supply of uranium-235 six months before the September 11 suicide attacks. The uranium was believed to have reached him in a multimillion deal with a Ukrainian-born mobster called Semion Mogilevich.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly came back to the subject more recently on November 30, in another exclusive report: Radiation Poisoning Betrays Mule In the first week of October, a Pakistani arrested on immigration charges in the course of the FBI investigation into the September 11 suicide attacks, complained of bleeding gums and pain, symptoms of gingivitis. He was treated with antibiotics, but was found dead in his cell in Hudson Count jail in Kearny, New Jersey, three weeks later. The cause of death was not released, any more than the dead man’s identity.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s medical experts note that the bleeding gums the anonymous Pakistani was treated for are a symptom of radiation poisoning, suggesting he might have been a “mule” transporting nuclear materials or devices into America. (A subsequent investigation revealed that he had contracted gingivitis as a result of radiation-induced leukemia.)

This explanation would imply that more than one such carrier is employed by al Qaeda to smuggle nuclear materials or devices into the United States, Western Europe and the Middle East, their mission being to plant their deadly burdens in pre-arranged secret locations, ready for activation.

At roughly the same time, another Pakistani was detained at the Allenby Bridge crossing from Jordan to Israel. According to initial published reports, he was caught trying to smuggle in a “dirty” nuclear device (a conventional explosive mixed with nuclear materials that spreads radiation).

Then came the news blackout. An exhaustive DEBKA-Net-Weekly investigation revealed that the arrested intruder carried no nuclear device. However, he suffered the same symptoms as the man who died in Hudson Jail, New Jersey, indicating he had been exposed to dangerous doses of radiation. DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s intelligence sources reveal that Israel has recently installed hidden Geiger counters in the battery of detectors at its international border crossings. The counter pointed border officials to the suspected “mule”, who most probably reached Jordan from Abu Dhabi.

Israel handed him over to the United States, but was left asking itself: What exactly was the Pakistani’s mission? And have other members of the mule pack managed to gain entry?


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To: meridia
they get outright threats, like the above.

Where did you see a threat?

61 posted on 12/04/2001 4:17:51 PM PST by IronJack
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To: samtheman
We have to make sure they REALLY REALLY hate us before we can deport them.
62 posted on 12/04/2001 4:21:22 PM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: meridia
outright threats

Missed the threat. Could you point it out specifically?

63 posted on 12/04/2001 4:24:39 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: IronJack
I have NO further comments in this thread. If you don't see the threat made by that board bully, it is not my obligation to enlighten you.

Over the years that I've been familiar with FR I had NO idea it was filled with longterm members who believe this *PUBLIC* WEBSITE is their own private personal turf and who seek to discredit others by referring to their date of official registration. IF that is the intellectual calibre of FR, then I am sorry I registered. If I want this CRAP... Usenet is more that willing to oblige.

EOM.

64 posted on 12/04/2001 4:27:59 PM PST by meridia
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To: dirtboy
I've been here since September 1998. Nice try to deflect valid Debka criticism as something having an ulterior motive.

It was a good try wasn't it. The old "member since" routine is a popular tactic though! Yeah.. You didn't fit into the mold darn it!

65 posted on 12/04/2001 4:33:12 PM PST by Smogger
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To: meridia
If you don't see the threat made by that board bully, it is not my obligation to enlighten you

Threat?

66 posted on 12/04/2001 4:33:45 PM PST by Smogger
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To: Fusion
T Minus 27 Days and counting, mushroom boy.
67 posted on 12/04/2001 4:49:06 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Smogger
Re #55 In one sentence, ignorance is bliss. Information like suitcase nuke or dirty nuke slipped into the country, if it becomes the mainstream knowledge, there will be unpleasant repercussions to many powerful interests. The public reaction generated by this can easily lead attention to many things which they would rather want to be hidden. The possibility of sinister(or incompetent) elements in spooks, incompetent foreign policies driven by campaign donors rather than national interests. Many dirty laudries will come out and they may never know which laudries will be exposed. The things which can be only known 50 years from now only to history buffs, the outrageous scandals, may come out now. The problem of internet as far as these folks concerned, their deeds will be exposed much sooner without the benefit of passage of time and forgetting. Badly shaken psyche of mass can destroy even entrenched powerful interest overnight. So badly shaken psyche is really "subversive". Look at what WTC attack did to left's agendas. Decades of incremental advance are being pushed back, put into grave doubt in large scale. It is wounded badly if not mortally. Acute crisis tend to put all accepted conventional views on their heads.

Possibility of nuke attack, biological attack, two planes crashing into WTC buidings, sudden crash of stock markets, Waco debacle. They all shake large number's people's mind badly enough to vigorously respond. One graphic torching of small fringe sect compound of almost no influence made people start to form militias.

In a way, some of these people in this forum are play a role of plunge protection team. They desperately try hard to keep the momentum to irreversably swing to the other direction where powerful interest can burn badly. In stock market, they keep pumping in money or instigate some up-rally by organized buy-back or other techniques. Since during the time of uncertainty, it does not take much to market to crash or to head in the opposite direction. Because dynamic is not stable enough and susceptable to small perturbation. So now we have a situation where all real economic indicators are not good or real bad but still Dow is very high. Dissociation of perception from reality can be created and sustained. But it will collapse real badly someday. It is like damming up the raging torrrent indefinitely. If you hold them too long, you will create a flood on a biblical scale rather than a few fancy beach front resort being washed up. But owners of the resorts have power and others don't. And when faced with the crisis, they get panic, short-sighted and worry about postponing of flooding rather than dealing with it now.

Likewise, some folks here want to do perception management to the level of the plunge protection team. They want to dissociate perception from reality again. What is really interesting is that this efforts are very concerted. I can understand that Bush or Ridge officially keep quiet about it. But they want to blame wrong suspects or show up in internet forum and police discussion topics. What is next ? Teacher instructing kids to look out for parents or old siblings talking about nukes and ratting on them out of civic(patriotic) duty ?

68 posted on 12/04/2001 4:56:11 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: Smogger
.. It is strange how many of the posters that are critical of DEBKAfile

Don't get me wrong, DEBKA is usually from an alternate dimension. They are extremely detailed and highly imaginative, but for room for all the things they report to be happening, earth would have to be several times bigger than it is. The nuke story has been reported elsewhere, so DEBKA may be near the truth this time.

69 posted on 12/04/2001 4:58:59 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: Smogger
The U.S. is stockpiling millions of doses of potasium iodide. this was posted on Newsmax.com three days ago and reposted here on FR.

The government would not do this unless it it considered the nuclear threat to be serious.

Potassium iodide blocks the uptake of certain radioactive materials by the thyroid that are the product of a nuclear detonation. It would help hold down the number of later thyroid cancers that might follow exposure to the fallout from a nuclear detonation.

I would also like to see my daughter move out of Manhattan. I believe this possibility is also the reason that Bush and Cheney are scrupulously being kept in separate locations.

70 posted on 12/04/2001 5:28:31 PM PST by Magician
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To: Magician
I believe this possibility is also the reason that Bush and Cheney are scrupulously being kept in separate locations.

This is exactly the reason they are housed in seperate locations. And I quote:

WASHINGTON – Vice President Dick Cheney said Wednesday evening that he and President Bush are kept apart because the United States fears a decapitation attack by terrorists armed with weapons of mass destruction.

"You've got people able to organize a conspiracy, able to come into the country and perhaps smuggle weapons of mass destruction in with them and threaten, in effect, not just one individual, but threaten the government and conceivably be able to try to decapitate the federal government," Cheney told CBS' "Sixty Minutes II." The comments mark the growing concern in the Bush administration over the possible use by terrorists of either radiological bombs or small, portable nuclear weapons, several administration officials told United Press International

71 posted on 12/04/2001 5:33:36 PM PST by Smogger
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To: meridia
Sorry you had a bad experience. If usenet is more your speed, feel free to go there.
72 posted on 12/04/2001 6:18:23 PM PST by IronJack
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
They nailed the latest round in Israel with their "Red Alert" story last week.

Oh yes, it takes real clairvoyance to guess "there will be a terrorist attack in Israel soon." I just don't know how they do it...

-ccm

73 posted on 12/04/2001 6:28:13 PM PST by ccmay
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To: Mitchell
Thanks for the analysis and the heads up!
74 posted on 12/04/2001 6:29:28 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: dirtboy
"Bite me. "

A mule once bit my sister. Or was it a møøse?

75 posted on 12/04/2001 6:43:46 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Magician
"The government would not do this unless it considered the nuclear threat to be serious."

At the very least they'd have to be incredibly stupid not to think it plausible.

76 posted on 12/04/2001 6:46:32 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Fusion
"There is no defense for this type of attack. "

The best defense is a good offense.
The Muslim extremist defilers will all be consumed in lakes of fire. The world will tremble at our rage should "Allah's Suitcase" be unleased on this country. And, I for one, will not shed a single tear.

77 posted on 12/04/2001 7:02:38 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Smogger
Across the state we have a very large Islamic population," said Steele. Some estimates put the number of Muslims in New Jersey as high as 300,000, and whatever the figure, it is growing. In the United States, the estimates range from 3 million to 6 million Muslims.

link to above: Good News: New Jersey Poised to Pass Halal Food Law

Maybe Osama or Saddam will come to NJ and run for governor with a large built-in voting base.

80 posted on 12/04/2001 7:47:40 PM PST by JDGreen123
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