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Racism runs wild at FR
Free Republic ^ | 12/4 | me

Posted on 12/04/2001 7:23:03 AM PST by ArcLight

JimRob can't be expected to police every thread. But the rank, appalling racism of some comments made during the discussion of the Adams Mark lawsuit really is quite beyond the pale. Your thoughts?


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To: Joe Hadenuf
"I think its inordinately obvious what some folks here are attempting to accomplish"
There are a few posting here who are new to FR.Any attempt to equate FR with the KKK is, without a doubt,the most unintelligent, assinine thing I have ever seen here.
161 posted on 12/04/2001 9:17:08 AM PST by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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To: CHELLEDC
NEVERMIND. My slow mind just grasped it :)
162 posted on 12/04/2001 9:18:47 AM PST by CHELLEDC
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To: ArcLight
Years ago I worked in a hotel. Young blacks were turned away regularly. If they were given a room it was the worst room at the highest price. They had to take those with reservations but they, too, were shunted to the worst rooms. It was out and out discrimination.

Why? Because the rooms would be trashed. They had a special outside firm come in and repair and cleanup the rooms before the maids would even go in. In that section it was loud music, drugs and security every night. If they put them in with other guests they would have other guests checking out or demanding refunds.

On the other hand this hotel was near a military base. They often got young officers (mostly black) and their families. Standing policy was to give these people the best available room at the cost of the lowest priced room no matter what. That was often a difference of $150.00 a night. They were to recieve VIP treatment no matter what they paid. They were never to be told they were recieving preferred treatment, it was to be automatic. It wasn't just because they were in the military, it was because they were the most awesome inviduals you could imagine.

Was this hotel racist?

163 posted on 12/04/2001 9:22:27 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: CHELLEDC
I am aware that right or wrong is based on your own set of morals and beliefs but it's so hard to keep from judging others.

Heaven forbid that there should be such things as immutable moral laws. We certainly wouldn't want to cramp anyone's "do your own thang" style or cause them to suffer from lower self-esteem.

Abominable practices such as abortion cannot exist where moral relativism is not enthroned.

Heck--cannibalism, incest, genuine racism, bestiality, pedophilia, Clintonspeak--indeed all the foul blessings of godless humanism would have a hard time taking root in a place where the population subscribed to immutable moral beliefs.

164 posted on 12/04/2001 9:23:14 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: Kevin Curry
"Heck--cannibalism, incest, genuine racism, bestiality, pedophilia, Clintonspeak--indeed all the foul blessings of godless humanism would have a hard time taking root in a place where the population subscribed to immutable moral beliefs."
That was a good right hook...TKO!!
165 posted on 12/04/2001 9:27:08 AM PST by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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To: CHELLEDC
You're mighty young to be suffering brain lapses. At your age I had an excuse....chronic ganja inhalation. NOW.....I'm just middle-aged and fading fast. Enjoy being 22 and be prepared to realize at 35 or so how different you will be from how you are now....perspective wise amongst many other ways.

Regards

166 posted on 12/04/2001 9:27:34 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: CHELLEDC
Where is the outcry from Islam after 9/11? Why aren't they marching in the streets against what was done in the name of Islam?

It appears that they agree with what happened. And if you read about Islam they are like Pinky and the Brain. They want to take over the world. It's in their teachings. It's fundemental to them. Are all the things written by them in this regard false? Are the responses on various subjects in the "Ask the Imam" link I posted above contrived? Are they just "kidding"??? They really are not that hateful and bigoted?

Can you prove to me that Islam has no problem with our Republic? They write and say things that say they do. And this is written all over the place? A lot of people were murdered and Islamic leaders call for more of it? And the followers of Islam in this country say nothing? And that's OK? Not with me.

167 posted on 12/04/2001 9:28:36 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: DainBramage; ArcLight; Jim Robinson
I have been here since 1998, and I have found that racists have a very short life here at Free Republic.

Jim tends to let people hang around enough to remove any doubt as to if they are racist, from what I have seen, but then they vanish (probably to pop up in a new screen name).

I would imagine if he zapped them sooner, we would have complaints about censorship above and beyond the complaints people make about censorship now.

Anyway, I saw on Jim's recent thread about the AFers that he has told his folks to cut down on the deleting of posts and to be more patient with kicking people out. My guess is that those who hate FR are trying to take advantage of this, and are signing up accounts to spew their filth and discredit the site.

Until I see a long time FReeper that one can make a credible assertion of racism about, I will stand by my belief that FR opposes racism, as it should, since there is nothing conservative at all about racism.

168 posted on 12/04/2001 9:29:03 AM PST by Hugh Akston
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To: isthisnickcool
I didn't realize that girl scouts are dressing this way these days.
169 posted on 12/04/2001 9:32:49 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: ArcLight
I posted a thread which I thought would encourage discussion of racial issues, much like the "Why White Men Prefer Asian Women" thread. Of course, the thread I posted was about why white men like Asian women (and vice versa), but ALSO about why white women like black men (and vice versa).

Apparently white/black race-mixing brings out much stronger emotions in some people than white/asian mixing.

I feel bad for the black FReepers who ended up seeing the idiocy on that thread.

170 posted on 12/04/2001 9:37:14 AM PST by xm177e2
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To: ArcLight
Took a while to find a linkable source.

A reference which has these numbers: 11-15 million African slaves bought and brought to the Americas. Only 5-7 % of these ended up in U.S. This gives a range of between roughly 500,000 to 1,000,000 slaves whose African owners sold them to slave traders who brought them to the U.S.

source

I have seen statistical abstracts that put the number of African immigrants during the 300+ slave-trade years at about the same numbers. This includes indentured apprentices, etc. (so perhaps you might consider them as unfree). I can't seem to find on-line sources of immigrant data prior to the 1820's. Or perhaps my recollection is hazy. So unless I find other documentation, my statement should read that prior to the Civil War, "about half" were brought as slaves, about half came as immigrants.

Of course, since the Civil War, literally millions of Africans have emigrated to the U.S., none of whom were slaves.

Statistically (with rounding), it breaks down thusly:
pre Civil War: 1,000,000-2,000,000 African "immigrants"; 50% slave
post Civil War: 8,000,000-10,000,000 African immigrants; 0% slave

So, yes Virginia, the ratio of African slaves to African immigrants is quite low.

No reply needed, or expected.

btw, I reckon you agree with the rest of my post then.

171 posted on 12/04/2001 9:37:14 AM PST by fnord
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To: Don Myers
I didn't know it either. They just stopped by to sell cookies one day. Hey, want some cookies? I have several thousand boxes:)
172 posted on 12/04/2001 9:38:03 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: isthisnickcool
I could handle making some Oreos with em.
173 posted on 12/04/2001 9:40:43 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: Sci Fi Guy
Or, as anyone who pays attention to AFer sites can attest, one person who creates a ton of accounts can make it seem like a lot of people agree with him.

You don't think the leftists would love to ruin or discredit FR by smearing it from within? You don't think at least one would try?

Until I see a long time Freeper who is racist but never gets banned, I will know that FR is no home for racists.

Which is how it should be. Racism belongs in the only political home compatible with it- the left.

174 posted on 12/04/2001 9:41:02 AM PST by Hugh Akston
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To: Kevin Curry
Yes heaven forbid indeed. It makes sense to me to take things on a case by case basis because this land was founded on freedom of religion and many religions conflict in what is right and wrong. There are overall beliefs that seem to bind them together. Why did you list racism? This is one of the many things that we have now come to see as wrong that was justified through people's belief in God and his word.
175 posted on 12/04/2001 9:41:06 AM PST by CHELLEDC
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To: fnord
It is irrelevant how they became slaves. The fact we had slavery was horrible enough.
176 posted on 12/04/2001 9:43:09 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: isthisnickcool
"I have several thousand boxes:)"

I guess that you just got stuck with the "cookies." They had a convincing line of gab, right?

177 posted on 12/04/2001 9:43:54 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: isthisnickcool
I've never seen them march in the streets over too many things. I have seen local Muslim men and women trying to help others understand their beliefs by holding various meetings about it or writing to the local papers about how deeply saddened they are about these things and how they don't support what has happened or has been happening overseas with the frequent bombings and attacks in the name of their God.
178 posted on 12/04/2001 9:45:00 AM PST by CHELLEDC
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To: Don Myers
Well, actually, Destiny's Child is from Houston. From what I understand they are great ladies and have been involved in a lot of local charity work. Houston is full of music. From the Houston symphony to the local rap & hip/hop groups to Tejano music, country, etc. It's all around. I like all of it, well, except for a friend that calls square dancing, I just don't get that:)
179 posted on 12/04/2001 9:49:14 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: denydenydeny
Tripledeny, you have been here for a bit.

Do you recognize the name "rickmoe"? I sure didn't. Have you seen him around, posting? I hadn't. And I read FR a lot.

Looks like he is gone now though- someone must have hit abuse on him, and rightfully so.

Which is my point- you don't see long time racist freepers. That is because racism is not tolerated here, because there is nothing conservative about racism. And Jim takes them out. It just may take a while for them to get noticed.

180 posted on 12/04/2001 9:51:18 AM PST by Hugh Akston
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