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1 posted on 12/03/2001 10:11:57 AM PST by Starmaker
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To: Starmaker
This Beth Goodtree thinks this is an original thought by her?

We've talked about it for months. I even heard people saying this on the Don Imus show in October for goodness sake.

2 posted on 12/03/2001 10:20:24 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: Starmaker
Fortunately this, again, is not as easy as many previously surmised. I used to be quite worried about this exact same scenario except for the fact that people with these contagious diseases, no matter how dedicated, are not physically fit to go around infecting people - they are barely able to move and their horrid appearance would be self-alarming. For example, in the case of small pox, the disease can only be contracted from people who have it in its most deadly stage, meaning they're not likely able to get up out of their (hospital) death bed and start walking around airports coughing on people, without somebody being concerned. Now, the degree to which this is feasible is of course directly related to the life-cycle of the diseases and when they are truly contagious - but, bottom line, it's not as easy or likely possible as the author (still) surmises.
3 posted on 12/03/2001 10:23:47 AM PST by Steven W.
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To: Starmaker
My first thoughts were as a carrier of some horrific disease. The scenario is laughingly simple and undetectable. Some heaven-bent terrorist infects himself with a devastating disease such as Ebola, Smallpox, or Bubonic Plague.

Heck, back during the Gulf war Art Bell had some guy on that brought up this scenario. He said it would be very easy to infect someone willingly or not, say a lady and a child, and send them cris-crossing the world on a plane when they are at their most likely to infect others. Multiply those two people by 50 and you could have real problems. The guest brought it up because Saddam was threatening the US and the west in general at the time.

Anyhow, someone with a devious mind and spare time on their hands along with a free pack of matches from the drug store could tie you in knots too if they did it right.

4 posted on 12/03/2001 10:28:36 AM PST by thatsnotnice
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Ebola won't work. It disables the patient to greatly. Further, the transmission is through contact with infected fluids. Finally it kills too quickly to infect a large population.

As for plague, it must be remembered that plague is contracted fairly frequently in the United States, and has not produced a major epedemic.

Smallpox is another matter altogether, although there is the distinct possibility that much of the population still has a certain degree of immunity from past vaccinations, and the government is already preparing to vaccinate everyone.

5 posted on 12/03/2001 10:31:24 AM PST by sharktrager
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To: Starmaker
I thought there would be Hillary Pics involved in the treat.
9 posted on 12/03/2001 10:35:39 AM PST by A CA Guy
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To: Starmaker
My guess would be the "Palestinian Guided Missile" : a human being set up to detonate in the middle of a crowded bank, or mall.
I suspect most of the candidates, sent over/recruited for this purpose , get a good look at the USA -and what's in it for them- and say : "Bleep this human bomb crap !"
Unfortunately, all you need is that 2% that doesn't get the word...
10 posted on 12/03/2001 10:39:01 AM PST by genefromjersey
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My ex-wife's refrigerater is the best place for bio-weapons designers to get cultures. She left some crap in there for about six months once, only to discover that whatever grew in there pitted the tupperware. What biological entity or waste toxin is it that can attack nylon?

This is a true story, Freepers!

12 posted on 12/03/2001 10:44:00 AM PST by GingisK
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They commit acts of terror from a warped pseudo-politico/religious belief system.

If you become absolutely convinced that your God has asked you to make the ultimate sacrifice (or to ask others to do so) because of how screwed up the world has become, and that by performing this holy duty it will help to set the world right again (by taking out a bunch of "evil-doers"), what else are you going to do?

Seems to me that Bush (and the rest of us Americans) believes the same, except for the suicide part. And here I thought we believed in that romantic "Man of La Mancha" stuff:

... To be willing to die so that honor and justice may live...

15 posted on 12/03/2001 11:12:22 AM PST by CubicleGuy
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In fact, the recent outbreak of Dengue Fever in Hawaii, a place not known for such outbreaks, and geographically isolated, may have been a dry run or a first attempt.

Er, no, not really. Pockets of dengue pops up from time time--including on the mainland (she may want to check out how many foreign plants, animals & other critters have migrated to Hawaii--& that'd include mosquitoes). I caught dengue either in Villahermosa or in & around Palenque/Agua Azul in Mexico. Is it a nice disease? No. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (okay, there are a few, but I'm too polite to mention who they are). As usual, the very young, the elderly and those with compromised immune systems are vulnerable. Can someone recover from it? Of course--otherwise I wouldn't be writing this with dengue antibodies in my blood.

Bad analogy.

16 posted on 12/03/2001 11:13:05 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Starmaker; sharktrager; dep; tallhappy
It's not bubonic plague that is of concern to bioterrorism experts, but the highly contagious pneumonic plague.  Pneumonic plague is caused by the same bacterium -- Yersinia pestis -- but the reason why pneumonic plague is dreaded by the experts is because of two characteristics: the ability to spread very rapidly in the population and a very high rate of lethality.

Just like inhalation anthrax, people who begin exhibiting symptoms of pneumonic plague have a very poor prognosis, even with vigorous treatment.  It's thought that the prognosis for survival is much worse than inhalation anthrax.  Most of the information I've found states that the mortality rate is 100%  if not treated within the first 24 hours. Pneumonic plague is highly transmissible person-to-person and can spread quite rapidly thoughout a population.  It is spread by uncontrollable coughing, which serves to spread the bacillus in tiny sputum droplets through the air.   When plague bacillus is inhaled into the lungs through bioterrorism, it becomes systemic and affects the lungs and other vital body organs.  Pneumonic plague symptoms include cough, bloody sputum, chest pain and difficulty breathing. It has an incubation period of 1-7 days. 

All in all, inhalation anthrax is a cakewalk compared to what pneumonic plague would be.  We're talking about 3 to 4 weeks of strict quarantine after a person is diagnosed.  If nothing else, it would be a nightmare in terms of our public health care systems' ability to respond to any outbreak that would occur.

The good news is that since the symptoms are very similar to inhalation anthrax, physicians and nurses are now much more likely to become suspicious of anything that resembles anthrax.  Hopefully, our frontline medical workers would spot the disease early enough to stop the death rate from becoming very high. Like the anthrax, people who've been exposed can begin prompt prophylactic treatment with antibiotics (Streptomycin, if I remember correctly.)

25 posted on 12/03/2001 7:01:51 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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