To: schmelvin Congress declared war on the Barbary Pirates. They were not a nation. They were very similar to modern terrorists. A+bert actually led me to this: No, we didn't but it was understood to be an official war nonetheless, and Congress specifically authorized monies to fight the war. As example, see the war history of the USS Constitution. The battles she fought against the French in the Quasi-war were considered analogous to police Actions. The battles against the Barbary Pirates, part of official War.
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The action abainst the Barbary Pirates started under President Thomas Jefferson. He said that he had done all he could without a Declaration of War from Congress. His successor, Alexander Hamilton, disagreed. Hamilton said that the Pirates had already declared war on the United States, so he wasn't required to wait for a Declaration of War.
I agree with Thomas Jefferson.
War is illegal without the sanction of a Congressional Declaration of War.
By the way,
does anyone know why this program
won't let me put A+Bert in the "To" window?
Never mind, I checked
He must be banned again.
I miss ya already, A+Bert.
Exodus, Hamilton was never president.
It started under Washington, albeit there were phases of lesser action, with another phase coming into effect during Jefferson's term.
He said that he had done all he could without a Declaration of War from Congress. His successor, Alexander Hamilton, disagreed. Hamilton said that the Pirates had already declared war on the United States, so he wasn't required to wait for a Declaration of War.
His Successor? Hamilton Was President?
Their disagreement was on how broad that authority was. BOTH agreed that the President could carry out war if the nation was attacked, without a Congressional Declaration of War. Congress specifically allocated funds for that action, and for the one we are currently engaged in.