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Secret US plan for Iraq war
The Observer (U.K.) ^ | 12/02/2001 | Peter Beaumont, Ed Vulliamy and Paul Beaver

Posted on 12/01/2001 4:24:48 PM PST by Pokey78

America intends to depose Saddam Hussein by giving armed support to Iraqi opposition forces across the country, The Observer has learnt.

President George W. Bush has ordered the CIA and his senior military commanders to draw up detailed plans for a military operation that could begin within months.

The plan, opposed by Tony Blair and other European Union leaders, threatens to blow apart the increasingly shaky international consensus behind the US-led 'war on terrorism'.

It envisages a combined operation with US bombers targeting key military installations while US forces assist opposition groups in the North and South of the country in a stage-managed uprising. One version of the plan would have US forces fighting on the ground.

Despite US suspicions of Iraqi involvement in the 11 September attacks, the trigger for any attack, sources say, would be the anticipated refusal of Iraq to resubmit to inspections for weapons of mass destruction under the United Nations sanctions imposed after the Gulf war.

According to the sources, the planning is being undertaken under the auspices of a the US Central Command at McDill air force base in Tampa, Florida, commanded by General Tommy Franks, who is leading the war against Afghanistan.

Another key player is understood to be former CIA director James Woolsey. Sources say Woolsey was sent to London by the hawkish Deputy Defence Secretary, Paul Wolfowitz, soon after 11 September to ask Iraqi opposition groups if they would participate in an uprising if there was US military support.

The New York Times yesterday quoted a senior administration official who admitted that Bush's aides were looking at options that involved strengthening groups that opposed Saddam. Richard Armitage, the Deputy Secretary of State, said that action against Iraq was not imminent, but would come at a 'place and time of our choosing'.

Washington has been told by its allies that evidence it has presented of an Iraqi link to 11 September is at best circumstantial. However, US proponents of extending the war believe they can make the case for hitting Saddam's regime over its plan to produce weapons of mass destruction.

A European diplomat said last week: 'In the past week the Americans have shut up about Iraqi links to 11 September and have been talking a lot more about their weapons programme.'

The US is believed to be planning to exploit existing UN resolutions on Iraqi weapons programmes to set the action off.

Under the pre-existing 'red lines' for military action against Iraq - set down by Washington and London after the Gulf War - evidence of any credible threat from weapons of mass destruction would be regarded as sufficient to launch military strikes along the lines of Operation Desert Fox in 1998, when allied planes made large-scale strikes against suspected Iraqi weapons complexes.

Opposition by Blair and French President Jacques Chirac may not be enough to dissuade the Americans. One European military source who recently returned from General Franks's headquarters in Florida said: 'The Americans are walking on water. They think they can do anything at the moment and there is bloody nothing Tony [Blair] can do about it.'

Bush is said to have issued instructions about the proposals, which are now at a detailed stage, to his Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, three weeks ago. But Pentagon sources say that a plan for attacking Iraq was developed by the time Bush's order was sent to the Pentagon, drawn up by Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, chairman of the joint chiefs General Richard Myers, and Franks.

The plan is to work with a combination of three political forces: Kurdish rebels in the north of Iraq, radical Sunni Muslim groups in and around Baghdad, and, most controversially, the Shia opposition in the south.

The most adventurous ingredient in the anti-Iraqi proposal is the use of US ground troops, Pentagon sources say. 'Significant numbers' of ground troops could also be called on in the early stages of any rebellion to guard oil fields around the Shia port of Basra in southern Iraq.


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To: a merkin
Take yourself in hand, old boy, and go into a spasm!

In other words, GFY!

21 posted on 12/01/2001 5:08:09 PM PST by Chapita
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To: codeword
************"Would you like to take care of this this personally?"*******************************

Most definitely!

I wouldn't look to a Brit to defend my family!

22 posted on 12/01/2001 5:11:07 PM PST by Chapita
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To: okie01
Witness the mortar attack on one of Saddam's palaces only last week.

I hadn't heard of that. Very interesting.

I have little doubt that the Iraqi people would largely turn against Saddam if they could. What I doubt is whether they have the munitions to effectively fight what is still a fairly modern army.

I don't think we can rid Iraq of Saddam without ground forces, and I'm afraid it's looking like those will be ours exclusively.

23 posted on 12/01/2001 5:13:33 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Pokey78
Haven't I heard this sort of thing before, about how shaky the coalition is and how Tony Blair opposes US plans? What are they, a broken record?
24 posted on 12/01/2001 5:17:46 PM PST by Batrachian
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To: a merkin
Maybe that response should have read, pee, or wee wee, or urinate, or better yet tinkle, instead of piss. The word "piss" can be found in the Bible-anyone so sensitive as to be offended by that word, will not be missed in this war against terrorism and neither will such punks present much of a problem to the less sensitive folks who are committed to waging and winning said war.

The prudent will follow the sage advice of: Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way!

25 posted on 12/01/2001 5:23:50 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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To: Pokey78
When will it be acknowleged that we are at war, really at war, with militant Islam. Besides Turkey and Isreal, we have no allies in the mid east.
26 posted on 12/01/2001 5:28:46 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: mrb1960
HORSE'S PUTTIE

Sorry, I don't speak idiotese.

27 posted on 12/01/2001 5:32:04 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: mrb1960
Cool down. This is all just speculation. I've seen this information at other sites.
28 posted on 12/01/2001 5:35:07 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: Pokey78
c'mom people...if its being posted on the web do you really think its a secret?
29 posted on 12/01/2001 5:53:23 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: Pokey78
Uh, dare I say it? LET'S ROLL!
31 posted on 12/01/2001 5:53:47 PM PST by spanky_mcfarland
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To: Chapita
Well, I hope I never get you that mad at me. I would hate to get p-ssed on by someone named "Chapita"! :)
32 posted on 12/01/2001 6:00:09 PM PST by codeword
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To: Pokey78
As Rumsfeld stated so clearly...the plan determines the coalition, the coalition does not determine the plan. Onward.
33 posted on 12/01/2001 6:01:31 PM PST by LiberalBassTurds
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To: Pokey78
Is something a secret when everybody knows about it?

Secret or not, it sounds like a plan to me.

What is that new saying, ah, Roll 'em, ah, Oh!

"Let's Roll!"

34 posted on 12/01/2001 6:04:18 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: CreekerFreeper
...including the poster of this information...

You don't get out much, do you?

35 posted on 12/01/2001 6:04:36 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Chapita
I wouldn't look to a Brit to defend my family!

I wouldn't look to Tom Ridge or John Ashcroft to do it, either.

36 posted on 12/01/2001 6:04:52 PM PST by codeword
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To: Dog Gone
Iraqi Shiite opposition group says it fired mortar rounds at Saddam palace

The Iraqis confirmed it when they claimed a.) there had been no damage and b.) they had caught and killed the perps (though they did not identify their political persuasion).

"I don't think we can rid Iraq of Saddam without ground forces, and I'm afraid it's looking like those will be ours exclusively."

I agree. But, while the Euros may stand aside, so will the other Arab countries -- privately happy to be rid of the local crazed bully.

And we may not be totally alone. The Turks might join this show. And who would you rather have on your side: the French...or the Turks?

37 posted on 12/01/2001 6:05:45 PM PST by okie01
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To: codeword
I am more inclined to depend upon myself but in extreme cases, I assume I should be able to depend upon fellow Americans to join a joint cause.But that is a stretch!
38 posted on 12/01/2001 6:11:53 PM PST by Chapita
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To: Pokey78
I get out enough to abide by the rules of this board, friend.

Watch it.

39 posted on 12/01/2001 6:26:42 PM PST by CreekerFreeper
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To: okie01
And who would you rather have on your side: the French...or the Turks?

Trick question. The French are never on anybody's side.

But I'll take the Turks over any NATO country except Britain.

40 posted on 12/01/2001 6:30:23 PM PST by Dog Gone
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