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What has atheism done for us lately?
Centre Daily Times ^ | 12/1/01 | Gary L. Morella

Posted on 12/01/2001 10:28:24 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

What has atheism done for us lately?

By Gary L. Morella

I have a question for those who believe that the atheistic worship of the state is to be recommended over an appreciation of a "higher" or "natural" law as the foundation for the rights that government ought to secure for the common good.

Natural law can be readily appreciated in the American experience, given the preamble to the Declaration of Independence: "When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary ... to assume among the powers of the earth the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them ..."

Natural law is something above power or force that gives content to the notion of justice. This notion suggests that there is a higher law by which the positive law of the state is to be measured and judged. Slavery was ultimately abolished in America because of the recognition of this "higher law."

Thomas Aquinas sets the most famous variation of this approach in his Summa Theologica. His natural law is a participation in the wisdom and goodness of God by the human person, formed in the image of the Creator. It expresses the dignity of the person and forms the basis of human rights and fundamental duties. This was the approach later used by Martin Luther King, Jr. in his "Letter from a Birmingham Jail," which contains references to Aquinas.

Simply put, what has state worship done for us lately? We only have to look at recent history for an answer. We saw the deaths of six million Jews and 20 million Ukrainians in the concentration camps and gulags of Hitler and Stalin, respectively. Today, we see the killing of 40 million innocents in what should be their safest place of refuge, their mothers' wombs.

If the state is the final arbiter of the law, the sole dispenser of rights, we're in big trouble, given the lessons of history. The state can easily take these rights away with catastrophic consequences. This is inevitable when each man is a universe unto himself, courtesy of Planned Parenthood v. Casey, which ignored a very important question: What happens when each citizen's "personal universe of rights" collides with another's? In the absence of some absolute, immutable, higher law, knowable through reason and not just faith, we're left with anarchy.

But more to the point, the traditionally recognized goal of a respected political regime is the common good. Does killing our children when they're most vulnerable and promoting aberrant behavior that leads to physical ruin meet that goal?

The fact is that ignorance of the necessity for human law to be rooted in the natural law has led to the major ills plaguing society today. This has nothing to do with theocracy. It has everything to do with common sense and the rule of right reason. This is obvious to any Christian who knows that God's supreme gift to us was the opportunity to choose him freely.

Interestingly, those decrying theocracies have no problem accepting a "state religion of amorality," which is promoted by demagogues who won't stand for any opposition. This is the current state of affairs in a "politically correct" but "morally bankrupt" America for which we can thank the example of the former "adolescent-in-chief," whose main claim to fame was making the country more comfortable with its vices.


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To: Hugin
I have a question for those who believe that the atheistic worship of the state is to be recommended over an appreciation of a "higher" or "natural" law as the foundation for the rights that government ought to secure for the common good.

Another false premise here is that atheism precludes belief in natural law.

62 posted on 12/01/2001 12:29:16 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: elfman2
That was my point. I simply can't get it why some people have such difficulties to understand that the (greek) prefix 'a' is a simple negation. There is nothing in between (B) and NOT(B). An (E) that is neither part of (B) nor of NOT(B) simply does not exist.
63 posted on 12/01/2001 12:29:18 PM PST by BMCDA
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To: f.Christian
Thanks for the link, but I'm very happy with my beliefs. I wish you the best in your journey…
64 posted on 12/01/2001 12:30:01 PM PST by elfman2
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To: spunkets
I would agree. I know atheists who live very moral lives, and their acts of humble charity far outstrip many so-called Christians I know. But this author clearly is not referring to that type of atheist.
65 posted on 12/01/2001 12:30:04 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: elfman2
The title is falseAgain, that may well be the case. But again, neither I nor the author gave the title to this piece. The newspaper gave the title to draw readers into an ongoing debate between those who uphold Judeo-Christian morality and beliefs and those who disdain them, in State college PA, home of PSU.
66 posted on 12/01/2001 12:32:32 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: proud2bRC
How about 100,000,000 corpses? That should be enough for starters.
Communism did kill with ruthless efficiency: 25 million in Russia during the Bolshevik and Stalinist eras, perhaps 65 million in China under the eyes of Mao Zedong, 2 million in Cambodia, millions more Africa, Eastern Europe, and Latin America--an astonishingly high toll of victims. This freely expressed penchant for homicide was no accident, but an integral trait of a philosophy....

From The Black Book of Communism

67 posted on 12/01/2001 12:33:27 PM PST by Blade
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To: BMCDA
" That was my point. I simply can't get it why some people have such difficulties to understand that the (greek) prefix 'a' is a simple negation. There is nothing in between (B) and NOT(B). An (E) that is neither part of (B) nor of NOT(B) simply does not exist."

I got you now. I assumed the worst. (As you can see, it exists among others.)

68 posted on 12/01/2001 12:33:36 PM PST by elfman2
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To: f.Christian
Order your copy of this inspiring book now. $3.00 Post paid. Good News Unlimited

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69 posted on 12/01/2001 12:35:00 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: Boucheau
Religion still holds on to the "most innocents killed" title.

Pure BS. Religion will NEVER rival the number of innocents slaughtered by atheistic communistic regimes in the last century. If you honestly believe this, your ignorance is worthy of ridicule.

70 posted on 12/01/2001 12:35:49 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Blade
Statism (in whatever form) does not equal atheism.
71 posted on 12/01/2001 12:36:10 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
Yeah...atheism did a bang up job protecting the tens of millions slaughterd by atheistic communism.

Go atheism.

72 posted on 12/01/2001 12:37:54 PM PST by Blade
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To: Hugin
for those who believe that the atheistic worship of the state

Please read it again, he sets up no such straw man. He is quite lucid in delineating those to whom he refers.

73 posted on 12/01/2001 12:38:47 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: proud2bRC
" Again, that may well be the case. But again, neither I nor the author gave the title to this piece. "

Again, that may well be the case. So "someone" is an idiot. {smile}

74 posted on 12/01/2001 12:39:23 PM PST by elfman2
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To: Blade; proud2bRC
The flaw in your argument is that it was not a lack of belief in god(s) that caused the Soviets and other communists to commit their acts - it was their collectivist, statist policies that held men to be expendable tools of the state.

Further, comparing body counts in the 20th Century to the body counts of previous, religion-inspired body counts is flawed because the 20th Century had the "benefit" of industrial killing methods (machine guns, gas chambers, etc.)

This argument is fundamentally flawed. No pun intended.

75 posted on 12/01/2001 12:43:54 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: elfman2
I too have had a guest editorial published in this paper (after weeks of wrangling over terminology and content) and I can assure you that the editorial staff there are a bunch of liberal idiots.
76 posted on 12/01/2001 12:44:30 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: proud2bRC
Interesting read. I took from it the worship of the state that socialists have, not necessarily atheism.

As a fellow believer, I agree with the author except for this one part:

This is obvious to any Christian who knows that God's supreme gift to us was the opportunity to choose him freely.

No, we can not do this. He chooses us, not the other way around.

77 posted on 12/01/2001 12:46:39 PM PST by rdb3
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To: Doctor Doom
"What ifs" don't count in body counts. "What if" religions had gas chambers and gulags is a moot point. They did not. If they desired them over the last 100 years, they could have obtained them. They did not. States animated by an atheistic hatred of innocents killed hundreds of millions. Religions, be they Judeo-Christian, muslim, or other, have never done such.

Atheism as an animating philosophy of the state always kills, eventually, every time the experiment has been tried, without a single exception.

78 posted on 12/01/2001 12:49:29 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: proud2bRC
States animated by an atheistic hatred of innocents killed hundreds of millions. Religions, be they Judeo-Christian, muslim, or other, have never done such.

This assertion is proven false by the fact that 85% of the Nazi Party membership were Lutherans, the source of their anti-Semitism.

Anyone who places the state over the individual - be they an atheist or religious - is a loaded gun pointed at the head of an innocent. (Sorry for the mized metaphor, but you get the idea.)

79 posted on 12/01/2001 12:52:52 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: proud2bRC
Why is masturbation sinful?
80 posted on 12/01/2001 12:59:17 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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