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To: MissAmericanPie
In Aramaic scriptures the word "paraclete" is used when talking about the "comforter" and the "advocate".

Why are there any Greek words in the "Aramaic Scriptures?" The short answer is that you were working with the "Peshitto" which is otherwise known as the West Palestinian "Peshitta" that was made to conform to the pre-Christian Septuagint of the Greek church.

We know that Jesus did not speak Greek because the Aramaic speaking people in the time of Jesus considered it sinful to speak any other language. This had to be true because the Aramaic Estrangelo Script was the lingua franca in Palestine at the time of Jesus.

Aramaic in this script is similar to Arabic and this was the language of commerce and industry. A growing number of scholars now recognize that Jesus spoke this form of Aramaic, not Greek.

The square letter Aramaic in Hebraic characters came much later. (See "Western Christian Scholars Awaken to Truth" in the Table of Contents on the Aramaic Bible Society Website). See Eusebius' "Ecclesiastical History", first published in 1928! Also, "The Age of Faith", Will and Ariel Durant's "The Story of Civilization", Vol. 4.

Trace the Biblical history of this Greek word "Paraclete". At one time the word read "Periklytos" and "Paraklytos", which is the name for "Muhammad" in Greek. Both words mean "Praised" or "Celebrate," the meaning and character of the man "Muhammad." (1 Jesus in The Qur'an, One World Publications, (c) Geoffrey Parrinder 1965, 1995, ISBN 1-85168-094-2. Knowing this, there is a need for us to study the life of Prophet Muhammad in depth to see if it all stands up.

Of special interest always is what the name for Muhammad was in his mother tongue, Palestinian Aramaic. For this we have to look to the Hebrew and Aramaic scriptures.

According to the present day Aramaic scriptures, the word for Muhammad would read "Paraqleyta" or "Paraklytos" in Greek and "Menahem" in Hebrew! In the ancient Aramaic scriptures, before these changes, it read "Ahmad," then Munahammana" which is the Aramaic/Syriac rendering for the name "Muhammad." These are names, not simply words, and they mean "Comforter" or "Muhammad" in Arabic.

There is no Aramaic dictionary where you'll find the word "Paraqleyta" because there is no such word in that language. Therefore, two questions are asked:

Why was "Periklytos" changed to "Paraklytos"?

Why was Ahmad changed to "Munahammana" and then to "Paraqleyta?"

History tells us that Muhammad was the only prophet who came shortly after Jesus and did everything Jesus said he would. Read Luke 6:40, "There is no disciple who is more important than his teacher; for every man who is well developed will be like his teacher" (Lamsa) or "The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master" (KJV).

Christians are often told that no one can go to heaven except by Jesus. This tells us that the only way anyone can go to heaven is to be Christ-like. Muhammad was such a man. Muslims make a stronger case. They say that Jesus says the only way one can be with Jesus in Heaven is to be as Him, i.e., one who submits to Alaha's Will (Aramaic), Allah's Will (Arabic). To do this is to be a Muslim! But let us return to the study of the word "Comforter."

John 16:7-13

But I tell you the truth, It is better for you that I should go away; for if I do not away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I should go, I will send him to you. And when he is come, he will rebuke the world concerning sin, concerning righteousness, and concerning Judgment. Concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; Concerning righteousness, because I go to my Father, and you will not see me again; Concerning judgment, because the leader of this world has been judged. Again, I have many other things to tell you, but you cannot grasp them now. But when the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all the truth: for he will not speak from himself, but what he hears, that he will speak: and he will make known to you things which are to come in the future. He will glorify me; because he will take of my own and show to you. Everything that my Father has is mine; this is the reason why I told you that he will take of my own and show to you. (Lamsa)

The difference between Muslims and Christians is that Muslims use the original words that Jesus and all the prophets used. In speaking of John 16:7-13, most Christians will tell you that the "Comforter" Jesus will send is the Holy Ghost. But keep in mind that the Holy Ghost was around before Jesus.

In the Aramaic we see that the translation is "Spirit." Jesus, peace be upon him, was talking about the one who would ONLY appear when He joined His Father in Heaven*. In other words, this Spirit of Truth (a man) was never around before. The man Jesus sent was Muhammad. .

31 posted on 11/29/2001 11:25:09 AM PST by Patria One
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To: Patria One
In the Aramaic we see that the translation is "Spirit." Jesus, peace be upon him, was talking about the one who would ONLY appear when He joined His Father in Heaven*. In other words, this Spirit of Truth (a man) was never around before. The man Jesus sent was Muhammad.

A spirit is not corporeal; a man is. The Spirit of Truth cannot be a man, by definition.
51 posted on 11/29/2001 12:16:19 PM PST by eastsider
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To: Patria One
The man Jesus sent was Muhammad. ....

Allah may or may not be believable; the problem is with Muhammed. There is no such thing as prophesy in our own age, and anybody, including both Muhammed and Joseph Smith, who claims to be a prophet in our age, is perpetrating a fraud upon the public.

162 posted on 11/29/2001 6:27:43 PM PST by medved
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To: Patria One
This narrative fails to address the fact that the Holy Spirit, as an indwelling presence in all believers, is a major part of New Testament doctrine, and cannot be at all reconciled to the idea that Mohammed was somehow the Comforter or Spirit of Truth.

God's Spirit is a prevailing theme throughout the OT as well, very clearly defined as a spiritual presence, and having nothing to do with any single fallable man.

And while the claim that the Koran "uses all the words that Jesus used" sounds nice, Jesus and Mohammed had nothing in common, taught different things, lived different lives, and as a result, the Koran contradicts scripture frequently. If Mohammed didn't believe that Jesus was who He claimed to be, then Jesus was a liar, His whole ministry was based on lies, and He is certainly not worthy of Mohammed's, or any Muslim's, reverence.

Can you imagine? "Oh yes, he was a great man...of course you can't trust anything he said about himself to be the truth, but what a wonderful teacher and spiritual leader." Hardly sounds reasonable.

192 posted on 11/29/2001 7:12:23 PM PST by agrace
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To: Patria One
We know that Jesus did not speak Greek because the Aramaic speaking people in the time of Jesus considered it sinful to speak any other language

Seeing as Jesus extensively quoted the old testament which was written in Hebrew I'd guess that He spoke Hebrew also. Kind of puts the lie to the 'He didn't speak other languages' noise.

Christians are often told that no one can go to heaven except by Jesus. This tells us that the only way anyone can go to heaven is to be Christ-like. Muhammad was such a man.

You need to read the scriptures again. We are to be Christ-like but the Word of God states that we are incapable of doing so (For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God). Only by accepting Jesus death on thecross as teh sacrifice for your sins can you go to heaven. And since the mohammedans deny the atoning death of Jesus I guess we know where they'll end up.

As to mohammad being Christ-like. Did Christ ever murder? No. Di mohammed? yes. Well I guess we can stop before we get into pedophila and rape and the rest of mohammeds sins.

name for Muhammad was in his mother tongue, Palestinian Aramaic

There wasn't then, nor is there now, (nor will there ever be,) a country called palestine. Therefore there is no palestinian Aramaic. There's just aramaic.

God Save America (Please)

241 posted on 11/30/2001 6:13:21 AM PST by John O
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To: Patria One
You and a_Turk better get your acts together. You quote John's account of Jesus' words as if He's prophesying muhammed; But your buddies discount John as not being authentic gospel, because he leaves no doubt as to the divinity of Christ; which makes your arab hero nothing but a good scam artist and a bullshitter.

So which of you islamic einsteins are we supposed to believe, as you deign to tell us our own faith?

285 posted on 11/30/2001 8:31:32 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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