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To: Topaz
Tope, Jim doesn't post all the laundry for many reasons, almost all of which I agree with. Can you imagine our detractors going over every expense with a fine tooth comb? On the cruise alone, they were going to every travel site on the net to see if they could beat our price by $5. When they did (really...$5!), they claimed we were "ripping off the FReepers". It's none of their business and they have no right to ask such a thing. Why invite headaches?

I'm sure Jim knows that by not publically posting every single expense of FR that it may tend to raise questions (almost exclusively from antagonists) about how the money is spent. The alternative is much worse and is just something we have to expect and trust Jim about. I do.

Anyway, if you want to give people a general breakdown this is what I would estimate...

Bandwidth - 45%
Site supervision (Jim) - 27%
Website management/programming (John) - 13%
Accounting and bookeeping - 7%
Miscellaneous (equipment, legal, office, etc.) 7%

The Afers keep making accusations that donations go to pay travel, hotel and bartabs of "organizers". This is a flat out lie. In the past, travel expenses may have gone to pay Jim's way to SOME events (for all I know he may pay out of his pocket), but, the only travel related expense paid for by FR that I can remember was a room at the March For Justice (Oct 98) that ANV decided to book for organizers and guests to meet/plan/execute the event (We were at different hotels). As it turned out it wasn't used much so we haven't done that since.

As far as I am aware, and I've been involved in just about everything we've ever done, all volunteers at EVERY FReep event we have had have paid their own way. For the malcontentents and cretins at the AF sites to claim otherwise is a lie and slanderous and one day may end them up in court themselves. As soon as we get around to deciding if they are worth it...heheh.

1,660 posted on 11/29/2001 12:59:45 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Bob J
Thanks for the info Bob J. I'll be opening my squeaky wallet at the next fundraiser. Season's Greetings!
1,672 posted on 11/29/2001 1:05:00 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Bob J
As soon as we get around to deciding if they are worth it...heheh.

THIS THREAD WAS WORTH IT. NOW THEY WILL HAVE NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT. Wait of course they will. They will fight and attack their own sites and posters. LOL

1,675 posted on 11/29/2001 1:06:00 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Bob J
Thanks Bob!
1,704 posted on 11/29/2001 1:26:11 PM PST by Topaz
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To: Bob J
"For the malcontentents and cretins at the AF sites to claim otherwise is a lie and slanderous and one day may end them up in court themselves. As soon as we get around to deciding if they are worth it..."

Will you be using the services of W&S again? If so, do you plan to ask if they'll just "put it on the tab"?

hehehe

1,723 posted on 11/29/2001 1:37:00 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Bob J
What happened to the 30% of the budget that's used to cover Bob J's ass when he makes a couple of really stupid statements while he's drunk?
1,725 posted on 11/29/2001 1:39:23 PM PST by Sam Spade
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To: Bob J
Can you imagine our detractors going over every expense with a fine tooth comb?

They wouldn't believe anythign that was posted. What's the point?

2,316 posted on 11/30/2001 3:53:58 AM PST by AppyPappy
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