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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Z2
For the full low-down on non-commercial/non-profits...check with MSNBC regarding "Alan Keyes is Making Almost No Cents".
3,361 posted on 02/19/2002 11:08:29 PM PST by Deb
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To: Jim Robinson
Can I start a thread on it now. Or do you want to do the honors. I was going to bed as its 3 in the morning but screw it! LOL
3,362 posted on 02/19/2002 11:08:32 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Z2
SLEEP TIGHT DON'T LET THE FREEPERS BITE......
3,363 posted on 02/19/2002 11:10:44 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Z2, Mojo, HeadHunter, and Alygirl worry more about Free Republic than I do. Tossing and turning. Damn that Jim Robinson! Damn that Free Republic! Free Republic must die!
3,364 posted on 02/19/2002 11:17:03 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, I love coming to this site. Here I find friends, and weird commentors. But, I love coming here. I can find all the news that's really important. I can also make my opinions known or keep silent; I can blow off steam, or just ROTFLOL.

My suggestion is this: Why not have a subscription service; styled as you already have it. Let people come to the site for nothing, but in order to post, you must subscribe for a year. I do that for Rush Limbaugh, and I'm sure I would be willing to do that for FreeRepublic.com

Before I found this site, I thought I was the only person in the world who loved America and hated Bill Clinton. Then I found Rush - then he talked about FreeRepublic.com

Thanks for all you and John do to make this a place where grassroots America can get together and find out how great a country we live in and what a great bunch of people Americans are; even if there are a few weirdos.

Regards, CyberAnt

3,365 posted on 02/19/2002 11:17:20 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: CyberAnt
Thank you, CyberAnt. Could be some advantages to that. For example, I imagine it'd cut way back on the Z2's of the world. Regards, Jim Robinson
3,366 posted on 02/19/2002 11:20:09 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Z2
Gee, if you had a real job, hobby or life, you wouldn't have to concern yourself with such trivial matters. How does it feel to obsess over someone or something that is more than you could ever hope to be? How does it feel to have as your chief interest the hatred of something that has become successful, yet does you no harm? I suspect such obsessions are most certainly a symptom of some sort of mental disorder. I will leave it to your shrink to figure out the official diagnosis. If he has already, please start taking the little pills in the bottle he gave you again post haste.

And when you are done with Laz and the others, I have entered the queue for a bite too. Except I prefer that you begin with the right cheek.

3,367 posted on 02/19/2002 11:22:23 PM PST by bluefish
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To: Z2
geez dude. Are you accepting donations for your mental heath care? I would be happy to donate. You sure as hell gave us a great telathon to display your severe disease.

BTW, have they found a cure yet for "shit-fer-brains"?

3,369 posted on 02/19/2002 11:30:43 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Jim Robinson
Here is z2

From: JJBROUWER 3:20 am
To: WATCHEROFREP (3 of 4)
948.3 in reply to 948.1

Thanks for the laugh! I see Special Constable Laz of the Wanabee Police Department got involved in the investigation!

3,371 posted on 02/19/2002 11:33:31 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: JoeEveryman
Well, I say it is transformative. So there.
3,372 posted on 02/19/2002 11:40:03 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Lazamataz
Hey Laz,

How come you gotta' be such a dick???

(ROFLMAO....)

3,373 posted on 02/19/2002 11:41:54 PM PST by unamused
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To: JoeEveryman
It's also non-commercial. It's also trivial. It's also not a problem. But I do thank you for your concern.
3,374 posted on 02/19/2002 11:42:11 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Z2
Everybody is banned at your pathetic little hole if they don't buy the far-fetched assertions junkyard dog NNLB/Mojo spews. Why do you think I didn't bother to show up after your invitation. You already kicked me out once for not towing the company line.

BTW, I noticed that Mojo couldn't refute my rebuttal at RUR nor provide evidence for his insane ramblings about me. Nor did he give authorization to post private emails which prove him a bald faced liar. He's change his story so many times about the MFJ, I'm beginning to wonder if he was really there.

You people have lost all sense of proportion and objectivity. When once I thought some of you might be within reason, now you are just an ugly little cult who feeds on each others hate. The funny part is, none of you are in the FR loop and can't really know much of anything that occurs...unless you get unprofessional lawyers to feed you private communications.

3,375 posted on 02/19/2002 11:43:31 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: Deb
You mean Chrissy Hynde. But other than that, you are correct.
3,376 posted on 02/19/2002 11:50:26 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: Deb
Are you thinking of The Pretenders?
3,377 posted on 02/19/2002 11:52:11 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: Jim Robinson
Yup. And he's got almost three years to produce it. The next Free Republic Inaugural Ball for President Bush will be in January, 2005.

Oy vey. I gotta top the last one, too, I bet! :o)

3,380 posted on 02/20/2002 4:06:02 AM PST by Lazamataz
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