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Because of the Americans (interesting analysis of Arab culture)
Frontpage ^ | November 28, 2001 | Jamie Glazov

Posted on 11/28/2001 3:38:10 AM PST by Mr. Mulliner

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To: SocialMeltdown
Quran couldn't be translated

The Koran in it's original Arabic is the only true Koran. All translations are merely commentary. That is why an arab can contradict what is written in the book.
No one who does not skilfully read the original is deemed capable of knowing what it says. When Westerners quote the murderous
passages, a Moslem denies them and says that the translation from which those passages were taken is false, that the translation
is wrong and that the Westerner is misreading the translation.

41 posted on 11/28/2001 5:44:21 AM PST by arthurus
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To: BlueLancer
how come, when they send their children out to throw rocks and molotov cocktails at armed men and they come home in body bags, they don't have the same attitude?

Actually, they do- among themselves. They are very big on theater, too, in their conflicts with the West.

42 posted on 11/28/2001 5:52:40 AM PST by arthurus
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To: CathyRyan
Arabs complain about how they are being treated in this country tell them it is Allah's will.
Bomb them back into the stoneage and tell them it is Allah's will.
Deport them back to where they came from and tell them it is Allah's will.
Take back our oil fields and tell them it is Allah's will.
Take their bank accounts and use the money to rebuild the WTC and tell them it is Allah's will.
...You get the idea.

Works for me and it sounds like a plan that will work for them.

43 posted on 11/28/2001 5:52:44 AM PST by CathyRyan
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To: Woahhs
Being immoral

They are not generally immoral. They are amoral. Immorality presupposes a belief in right conduct and thought. Amorality is nonrecognition of a concept of "right" other than immediate personal pleasure.

44 posted on 11/28/2001 5:56:58 AM PST by arthurus
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To: IronJack
Hey, good piece of writing, IJ. Thanks for posting that link!
45 posted on 11/28/2001 5:58:57 AM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Singapore_Yank
We should always remember to distinguish between the Arab Christians in this country and the Arab Moslems. In the war that is coming (or is already here), they could become a valuable asset in infiltrating and routing out the large fifth column.
46 posted on 11/28/2001 6:00:43 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: Ratatoskr
They are basically 2 year olds who have never grown up. We all know the most effective way to deal with 2 year olds. (Go ahead, try to have some dialogue with an angry 2 year old)
47 posted on 11/28/2001 6:03:28 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: Singapore_Yank
Maybe it is more genetic than culture. These people have not moved from the birth of their origins for thousand upon thousands of years. The people that left the area thousands of years ago were looking for something different, better and the ones that stayed were content with same old same old. It would explain why American and other later settled countries are at the forefront of technology. Why some in the old country stayed and fought the same old tired wars of tribalism and religion, a small group hit the road to find some thing better for the future. Just like I would think that if we ever develop space travel to other worlds there we be some who would be standing in line ready to go while others you could not get them off earth with a bomb strapped to their butts. Could it be they simply do not have the genetic make up necessary to get up of their collective behinds and do something?
48 posted on 11/28/2001 6:41:46 AM PST by CathyRyan
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To: Singapore_Yank
A more general point: Liberal Western culture emphasizes personal autonomy and freedom of religion while conservative Muslim culture emphasizes social goals from an Islamic orientation.

As an example, conservative Muslim societies seclude women so men will not see them and be tempted to engage in lustful thoughts or deeds. Liberal Western societies allow women to go about uncovered so men have personal responsibility to resist temptation.

49 posted on 11/28/2001 6:42:36 AM PST by ThreeOfSeven
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To: Singapore_Yank
Good writer, and insightful! Enjoyed the article; thank you Yank. Had you not posted this, I wouldn't have come across it in my routine.
50 posted on 11/28/2001 6:48:55 AM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Singapore_Yank
A lot of what he says is doubtless true, but wartime amateur anthropology conforms to certain patterns. Just as the driver who goes too slow is always an idiot and the one who drives too fast is always a maniac, so the enemy is always stupid, shiftless, and lazy, or bloated and exploitative, or robotic and mechanical, or demonically clever and sadistic, or effete and degenerate. Cultural differences exist. What people do about them is another matter.
51 posted on 11/28/2001 6:57:33 AM PST by x
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To: arthurus
They are not generally immoral. They are amoral. Immorality presupposes a belief in right conduct and thought. Amorality is nonrecognition of a concept of "right" other than immediate personal pleasure.

Not to quibble too much, but I have to defer to C.S. Lewis on this point, and disagree. As men may disagree whether you should have one wife or four, they all seem to agree you shouldn't have any woman you want. The people in question are still filled with indignation when a breech of moral tenets is to their detriment. Not aggression, or anger at the inconvenience: indignation. Thus, they still accept the rules. That's what makes their tactics work. Both sides subscribe to same general set of rules (natural law), but only one side feels bound by them.

In short, they want you to play by the rules when it benefits them, while they concoct a plausible (to them, and that's all that matters) exception when it hinders them.

52 posted on 11/28/2001 6:58:22 AM PST by Woahhs
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To: Singapore_Yank
More interesting to me than the flood of analysisof the Arab Mindto which we have been treated lately, is the absolute LACK of analysis of the American Mind.

Is there a psyco-babble term appropriate to describe the shabby remnants of American culture? The refusal to admit to ourselves that cause and effect may have played even the tiniest role in the September 11th disaster? The continued shouting at the top of our lungs (similar to early forest dwellers who shouted and beat on their shields to drown out their terror at seeing the full moon) that they hate us because we are so free--even as that chimeral freedom is erased by a Congress that doesn't even bother to read the documents that make it official; preferring instead to give them horribly Orwellian names like "The Patriot Act of 2001".

Is it worse--or more dangerous--to live in a somnolent metaphoric reality, going nowhere and blaming others?

Or, to crash around the world bombing, destroying, calling it humanitarianism and freedom-building; setting up permanent military installations; engaging in massive "reconstruction" projects of countires and cultures of which we know little or nothing--even as our own culture withers and dies in fast motion right before our eyes--a death encouraged and supported by our Power Elite? An Elite in whom we obsessively invest more power and money in spite of their manifest loathing of everything we are and our ancestors were?

No. Let's talk about the mind of the Ayrab and all it's shortcomings. And can we look forward to an article by Mr Glazov called "The mind of the Jew" anytime soon? Anything to keep us from the contemplation of that terrifying abyss know as "the Mind of the American.....

53 posted on 11/28/2001 6:58:53 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: Singapore_Yank
you mean they just need to grow up and get a clue >???
54 posted on 11/28/2001 7:07:49 AM PST by Nat Turner
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To: Ratatoskr
It stresses that it does not make much sense for the Muslim to act in certain situations, since much is in "Allah’s will" anyway. As a result, there is often little motivation for Arabs to take action for change or to evaluate critically their own circumstances.

Animals don't possess the capability for self-reflection, nor do they change behavior unless they are forced to.

But animals are animals.

55 posted on 11/28/2001 7:14:39 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: Singapore_Yank
Has this article been pulled? I tried the link, but I come up with "Page not available".....

Kit.

56 posted on 11/28/2001 7:15:41 AM PST by KitJ
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To: KitJ
Still works for me.
57 posted on 11/28/2001 7:30:56 AM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: IronJack
Good article, Jack! I just bumped it up for you....
58 posted on 11/28/2001 7:32:08 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: CathyRyan
Which of "our oil fields" are you referring to?
59 posted on 11/28/2001 7:40:22 AM PST by Patria One
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
Anything to keep us from the contemplation of that terrifying abyss know as "the Mind of the American.....

Why don't you descend from that ivory tower you occupy and ask Afghan women about "the Mind of the American?"

Or the Jews who were liberated from Nazi concentration camps?

You don't even attempt to disguise your contempt for your fellow citizens.

It must irritate you to no end that your lame arguments that America is responsible for the 9/11 attacks is meeting with scorn by all but the looney left and the even loonier libertarians. Lurking behind comments like yours is some kind of perverse satisfaction that cretins flying planes into buildings gave Americans what they deserve.

Is it worse--or more dangerous--to live in a somnolent metaphoric reality, going nowhere and blaming others?

Even as you spit on the "metaphoric reality" of terrorism inflicted on this country, young men are about to die defending you against that which you deride.

I don't know why they bother.

60 posted on 11/28/2001 7:40:48 AM PST by sinkspur
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